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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0
Date Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:36:06 GMT
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<> wrote:
> Um, maybe too abstract?
> How about some concrete examples of the activity you mean.

You know, the idea thing.  Brains, thinking, and stuff.


OK. Let me think about this some more.

>  - Dennis
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir []
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 14:54
> To:
> Subject: Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, FR web forum <> wrote:
>>>What can we improve?
>> Oh? Will you prove to be a Father Christmas? :-)
>> This is the feedback from the french forum and improvements that we request us the
most often
> Sorry.  My original note was ambiguous.  I mainly wanted to discuss
> how we can start this conversation about AOOo 4.0.  When we really
> start it, I think we'd want to engage users via the blog, as well as
> the ooo-users list.  Other Apache projects might be ideas as well,
> especially how there projects could enhance AOOo.
> I think if we engage in this kind of brainstorming, we should also be
> disciplined.  Some good practices would be:
> 1) We would need some volunteers to transcribe or summarize the posted
> ideas onto a set of wiki pages.  These "scribes" ensure that we have a
> useful record of the ideas.
> 2) Don't "shut down" someone's idea by criticizing it.  This is not
> about voting or expressing approval or disapproval.  It is about
> collecting ideas.  If we are critical too early this tends to stop the
> flow of ideas.
> 3) But it is fine to do a quick +1 to express support for an idea.  Or
> even better, to express willingness to work on the idea.
> 4) We want to avoid turning this into a debate.   The goal is to start
> a conversation, get more people enthused about what AOOo 4.0 could be,
> and by showing what is possible, attract new project volunteers.   The
> time to start thinking about AOOo 4.0 is now!
> 5) We should not try to duplicate the Issue Tracker.  We have
> thousands of ideas there.  The brainstorming is not just a about
> lobbying for known proposal.  (but it might be partially that)  It is
> about having a conversation with project members, users, others at
> Apache and elsewhere, and developing a shared vision of AOOo 4.0.
> Does this make sense?
> -Rob

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