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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0
Date Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:36:06 GMT
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
> Um, maybe too abstract?
>
> How about some concrete examples of the activity you mean.
>

You know, the idea thing.  Brains, thinking, and stuff.

;-)

OK. Let me think about this some more.

>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 14:54
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:07 PM, FR web forum <oooforum@free.fr> wrote:
>>>What can we improve?
>> Oh? Will you prove to be a Father Christmas? :-)
>> This is the feedback from the french forum and improvements that we request us the
most often
>>
>
> Sorry.  My original note was ambiguous.  I mainly wanted to discuss
> how we can start this conversation about AOOo 4.0.  When we really
> start it, I think we'd want to engage users via the blog, as well as
> the ooo-users list.  Other Apache projects might be ideas as well,
> especially how there projects could enhance AOOo.
>
> I think if we engage in this kind of brainstorming, we should also be
> disciplined.  Some good practices would be:
>
> 1) We would need some volunteers to transcribe or summarize the posted
> ideas onto a set of wiki pages.  These "scribes" ensure that we have a
> useful record of the ideas.
>
> 2) Don't "shut down" someone's idea by criticizing it.  This is not
> about voting or expressing approval or disapproval.  It is about
> collecting ideas.  If we are critical too early this tends to stop the
> flow of ideas.
>
> 3) But it is fine to do a quick +1 to express support for an idea.  Or
> even better, to express willingness to work on the idea.
>
> 4) We want to avoid turning this into a debate.   The goal is to start
> a conversation, get more people enthused about what AOOo 4.0 could be,
> and by showing what is possible, attract new project volunteers.   The
> time to start thinking about AOOo 4.0 is now!
>
> 5) We should not try to duplicate the Issue Tracker.  We have
> thousands of ideas there.  The brainstorming is not just a about
> lobbying for known proposal.  (but it might be partially that)  It is
> about having a conversation with project members, users, others at
> Apache and elsewhere, and developing a shared vision of AOOo 4.0.
>
> Does this make sense?
>
> -Rob
>
>

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