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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [RT] Create a second incubator podling - the ooo forums
Date Tue, 06 Sep 2011 14:16:13 GMT
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:03 AM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 09:36 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarrwrk@iol.ie> wrote:
>> > On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 09:10:32 -0400
>> > Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here are the roles at Apache:
>> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#roles
>> >>
>> >> Do you have a similar list, with definitions, for the forums?
>> >>
>> >> It would be good to understand what you think a "Volunteer" would map
>> >> to in terms of an Apache role.  Ditto for Admin and Moderator.
>> >
>> > On my way out the door to a meeting, so o time to read your url at present.
>> >
>> > Volunteers do the daily low level work of answering queires
>> >
>> > Moderators do Volunteer work and handle assessment of doubtful postings, with
deletion and modification powers and banning powers, all which can be subject to review by
the forum personnel
>> >
>> > Admins handle the code.
>> >
>>
>> So based on your definitions the mapping might be:
>>
>> Volunteer = Apache contributor.  This is not a title, no one is voted
>> in or appointed as a contributor.  It is just what we call someone who
>> contributes to the project, by submitting a patch, reporting a bug,
>> contributing to an email thread, helping a user on a list, etc.
>>
>> Admins, since they handle code should probably be Committers in the
>> project.  But it is also possible for volunteers/contributors with
>> sustain and valued contributions answering questions to be voted in as
>> Committers as well.
>>
>> Moderators -- I could see that mapping to a committer, or just being
>> rights the PMC assigns to a contributor.  For example, with mailing
>> lists we do not require that a list moderator be a committer.  On the
>> other hand, list moderators cannot ban users, at least not so far as I
>> can tell. But same thing applies here.  I'd encourage us to look at
>> sustained contributions from moderators and vote them in, where
>> merited, as committers and PPMC members.
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> One point of clarification.
>
> Rory talked of Administrators, but did not qualify that.
>
> Kirano, Ricardo and others are forum level administrators - this means
> that they have access to the phpBB Admin Control Panel. They do not have
> access to a server level account, they can not change 'the code', what
> they can do is alter configuration parameters via the control panel - so
> lots of check boxs and drop down lists, they can manage user accounts to
> some degree, add individuals to groups and the like.
>
> Terry and myself (for the first year or so) had one level of access
> beyond that, we had actual server level access - this is a role that is
> outside of the daily functioning of the forum. So we could perform
> upgrades, add modifications that require code changes and such, we could
> start/stop services. In this case it was clear from the start that this
> would move into the ASF Infra team area of responsibility, that was
> never disputed by anyone on our side of things.
>
> I hope that helps,
>

Thanks, that is important clarification. Based on that you can pretty
much ignore everything else I've written this morning ;-)

-Rob

> //drew
>
>

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