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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: Umbrella projects
Date Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:18:57 GMT
On 12 September 2011 15:33, Joe Schaefer <> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Simon Phipps <>
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 9:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: Umbrella projects
>> On 12 Sep 2011, at 14:12, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>  It would be useful if you explained what you meant by "autonomy"
>> so it
>>>  is clear about what you are talking about.
>> "Autonomy" in the case of a localisation would mean being free to
>> create releases without needing to translate decisions made by the developers
>> (regardless of what's changed) into any other language. Obviously anything
>> that moves upstream would need to be represented in English.
> Provided that there are sane versioning rules for the sources, I don't
> see why a local language "preliminary release vote" needs to be held here.
> OTOH I do know that the only votes that count are (P)PMC votes, so any source
> release needs to follow all the normal rules of an ASF release, including
> soliciting positive votes from the IPMC on general@incubator.

I agree with Joe with respect to releases that are built from
*released* Apache code.

However, I want to be clear. I am not talking about releases. I am
talking about decisions that affect the project community as a whole.


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