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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [AOOo 4.0] dev wishlist (Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0)
Date Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:11:10 GMT
I am intrigued by both Ricardo and Dennis's ideas.

Ricardo makes me think of a combination of Word Perfect and other 80s word processors non
wysiwyg view with markup.

What if the tree view is of the ODF structure?

A thought now back to vacation!


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On Sep 21, 2011, at 2:29 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <> wrote:

> It appears that brainstorming has ended and judgment/evaluation begins?
> Ah well ... I guess it is time to wait and see how Rob intends to avoid this.
> - Dennis
> [PS: Regina - thanks for the tip.  I never knew that was there.]
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [AOOo 4.0] dev wishlist (Re: Starting a conversation on AOOo 4.0)
> 2011/9/22 Dennis E. Hamilton <>
>> If I have to navigate around documents, such as the ODF specifications
>> themselves, I save as PDF so I can use the forward and back browser-style
>> navigation.  It would be terrific if that worked in OO.o directly, so that
>> one could go somewhere, then come back with a click of a button.
>> That might help some of the copy and paste rearranging too, although it
>> might be desirable to have a one-button remember-this-place in some go-to
>> list pull-down too, having nothing to do with planting a bookmark in the
>> document.
>> There are a large number of navigational accelerators that would be useful
>> in a Writer document, and having some sort of expandable tree-map sidebar
>> for quick navigation wouldn't be bad either.
> Please, do not do it like LibO: their tree view is a nuisance, almost a
> show-stopper when you work on long and complex documents. See this issue:
>> OK, and it would also be nice, for power-users at any rate, if it is
>> possible to collapse and expand the text structures.  That's a major UI hit
>> though?
> It seems, in fact. The main problem I can see with "collapsing headings" is
> that displaying a "page" on such conditions is completely wrong, so this
> would need a different approach of how info is presented during edition. If
> we let our fantasy run wild, we can think of a WYSIWYM (not WYSIWYG) mode on
> which page constrains are not considered and images, objects and footnotes
> shows were they are dropped, not were they should be once the document is
> "compiled". The best example of such behaviour is LyX, a really good
> front-end for LaTeX:
> But a good question to answer here is: Is this feature so important that AOO
> needs to face such huge changes in the near (or even not-so-near) future? I
> don't think so: for me, the Navigator is good enough (even if it is possible
> to make it even better...)
> BTW, if asked about nice to have features, why not full support for opentype
> tables?
> There are also long standing issues related with TOC, like this one:
> and many others...
> Cheers
> Ricardo

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