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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: svn commit: r796325 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./ content/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html
Date Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:46:08 GMT

On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:58 AM, TJ Frazier wrote:

> On 9/29/2011 09:41, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 6:05 AM, TJ Frazier<tjfrazier@cfl.rr.com>  wrote:
>>> Dave, several small points:
>>> 
>>> * I have Bureaucrat and Administrator rights on the Mwiki copy. Email me (on
>>> ooo-dev or privately) to activate an existing account, or set up a new one.
>>> Anyone should be able to access the copy in read-only mode.
>>> http://ooo-wiki.apache.org/
>>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, I've added that to the page.
>> 
>>> * "To establish a Roller account contact Infrastructure.</p>" Email link?
>>> JIRA link?
>>> 
>> 
>> I added link to Infra JIRA.
>> 
>>> * How should people contact you, as blog administrator?
>>> 
>>> IMHO, all of this relatively new info shouldn't be on that web page at all:
>>> the page should link to a wiki page. The info is too volatile to maintain
>>> easily on a web page, and the wiki is where users will see it.
>>> /tj/
>>> 
>> 
>> Webpages are just as easy to edit as the wiki, if you use the web
>> interface to the CMS.  Of course, if we're changing admins so
>> frequently that the difference between requiring 4 mouse clicks to
>> make a change (CMS) versus 2 mouse clicks (wiki) is a problem, then we
>> have a far more serious problem, one that is not really addressed by
>> merely reducing the number of mouse clicks.
> 
> Judging by the number of niggling little commits to change one page, the preview facility
of CMS is considerably less useful than a wiki's (even Cwiki does that right). And, judging
by how many Apache-website pages need at least a little cleanup (almost every one!), other
users find the CMS too inconvenient to use. --/tj/

Given that the MediaWiki is not completely migrated, I am reluctant to use any Wiki for this
information. TJ - do you have any further information about MWiki migration?

As far as clicks are concerned. I do my Apache CMS updates from the command line and terminal
anyway. It's a perl / python based system and flexibility is possible. All of the source is
in the Apache SVN. The process is documented in the podling website.

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html

Regards,
Dave

> 
>> 
>> -Rob
>> 
>>> On 9/28/2011 21:53, wave@apache.org wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Author: wave
>>>> Date: Thu Sep 29 01:53:46 2011
>>>> New Revision: 796325
>>>> 
>>>> Log:
>>>> Corrected the spelling of my name. Expanded on the Blog and Wiki
>>>> information.
>>>> 
>>>> Modified:
>>>>     websites/production/openofficeorg/   (props changed)
>>>>     websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html
>>>> 
>>>> Propchange: websites/production/openofficeorg/
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --- svn:mergeinfo (original)
>>>> +++ svn:mergeinfo Thu Sep 29 01:53:46 2011
>>>> @@ -1 +1 @@
>>>> -/websites/staging/openofficeorg/trunk:791146-796312
>>>> +/websites/staging/openofficeorg/trunk:791146-796324
>>>> 
>>>> Modified:
>>>> websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html
>>>> 
>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>> --- websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html
>>>> (original)
>>>> +++ websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/ppmc-faqs.html
>>>> Thu Sep 29 01:53:46 2011
>>>> @@ -98,15 +98,22 @@ Wolf Halton as members.  New members can
>>>>  request to Apache Infra.</li>
>>>>  </ul>
>>>>  <h3 id="blog">Blog</h3>
>>>> -<p>Blog authors are Rob Weir and Dennis Hamilton</p>
>>>> -<p>The blog admin is Dave Fischer.  He can authorize new authors once
>>>> they have first
>>>> -established a Roller account.</p>
>>>> +<p>Blog authors include Rob Weir and Dennis Hamilton.</p>
>>>> +<p>The blog admin is Dave Fisher.  He can authorize new authors once
they
>>>> have first
>>>> +established a Roller account. To establish a Roller account contact
>>>> Infrastructure.</p>
>>>>  <h3 id="bugzilla">Bugzilla</h3>
>>>> -<p>?</p>
>>>> +<p>Raphael?</p>
>>>>  <h3 id="svn">SVN</h3>
>>>>  <p>All committers have equal access.</p>
>>>>  <h3 id="wiki">Wiki</h3>
>>>> -<p>?</p>
>>>> +<ul>
>>>> +<li>OOOUSERS. This wiki is open to anyone with a CWiki account.</li>
>>>> +<li>OOODEV. This wiki may only be edited by project committers, PPMC,
and
>>>> iCLA signers.</li>
>>>> +</ul>
>>>> +<p>Dave Fisher has Confluence Admin rights and can authorize new editors
>>>> in the OOODEV Wiki.</p>
>>>> +<ul>
>>>> +<li>MediaWiki. TJ?</li>
>>>> +</ul>
>>>>  <h2 id="how_to_participate">How to participate?</h2>
>>>>  <p>First of all you have to think how you want to participate as we
have
>>>> different kind
>>>>  of roles like user, developer, committer. The easiest way is to use what
>>>> we build as
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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