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From Malte Timmermann <malte_timmerm...@gmx.com>
Subject Fwd: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: OpenOffice.org code on Apache: IAccessible2 ?
Date Mon, 12 Sep 2011 08:41:39 GMT
FYI - might be helpful once somebody starts with IA2 for AOOo.

I guess integrating the CWSes should be quite easy for AOOo.

As Java Accessibility support is poor in most AT, the IA2 stuff should 
be integrated immediately after the first AOOo release.

Some communication with AT vendors might be necessary - when I had the 
IA2 stuff up and running, I was able to use the API in AccProbe, but not 
with JAWS. Maybe JAWS does some special casing for Lotus Symphony, but 
not for IA2 enabled OOo. IBM will know whom to contact.

Malte.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] Re: OpenOffice.org code on 
Apache: IAccessible2 ?
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:32:38 +0200
From: Malte Timmermann <malte_timmermann@gmx.com>
To: accessibility@global.libreoffice.org

Michael Stahl and Dennis Hamilton are right wrt IA2 CWSes listed below.

accfixes2 is ready for QA, but was intended to be integrated _after_ 3.4
just to make sure we don't break Accessibility on some other platform
short before the release.

But feel free to integrate, and do some testing on Windows, GNOME and
Mac. It will not introduce any IA2 stuff.

accia2bridge is not critical to integrate, as this is Windows-only (UAA
IA2 bridge) and can't break anything on other platforms. But it will
remove the Java Accessibility stuff on Windows, so better do this as the
last step.

accfixes3 was intended to be the last CWS with IA2 stuff. All remaining
changes where in accstuff, and my plan was to migrate (adapted) changes
from accstuff to accfixes3, or delete not wanted stuff in accstuff, and
never integrate accstuff itself.

Unfortunately somebody already did it the other way round and moved a
larger, not reviewed chunk of code from accstuff from accfixes3
(276449:e44059869aa9).

accstuff (+accfixes3 with 276449:e44059869aa9) still contains changes
made in a way I wouldn't integrate them in OOo, but now it's up to other
people to decide whether or not to integrate stuff as it is.

It's not up to me anymore to have an eye on OOo architecture. (But note
that also the people "responsible" for the modules with remaining
changes didn't want to integrate them as they are)

Once stuff above is integrated, there is still some minor work missing.
I might be able to help on that, but I don't plan to do the integration
work for accfixes*, at least not for LibreOffice, because there will be
many conflicts. Integration into AOOo should be quite smooth.

For the remaining changes, I guess I would like to do it the same way
like my old friend, the "Pseudo Engineer and itinerant idiot" ;)
A little bit of poking around, hacking, and providing a patch compiled
and tested only on my primary platform :)

Malte.

PS: I don't read the mailings lists regularly, and the accessibility
list is the only one I really look into. But chances to miss something
are high. If you have questions on the OOo IA2 stuff here, and I don't
answer them in a timely manner, drop me a note w/o cc-ing a mailing list
so it will make it to my inbox.


On 09.09.2011 21:45, Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 02.09.2011 11:56, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The OpenOffice.org code is now available on Apache:
>> <http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/source.html>. Yesterday,
>> the Apache OOo blog published an article on developer education, so
>> the code should be ready for attempts to compile it on Linux:
>> <https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/apache_openoffice_org_developer_education>.
>>
>> Since we have a bug on IAccessible2 at
>> <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39956>  I wanted to find
>> out where the code relevant to IAccessible2 can be found in the
>> repository at Apache and add some information about that to the bug.
>> Can anybody help?
>> (I have only browsed the repository in my web browser; I have not
>> checked out the code from SVN.)
>
> the Apache SVN currently contains only the OOO340 head (i.e. everything
> that was integrated until OOO340_m1).
>
> apparently the IA2 stuff is in a not-yet-integrated CWS on the OOo HG
> server:
>
> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/accia2bridge/
>
> it currently looks like this (like most open CWSes) won't be integrated
> into ApacheOOo for quite some time, as it is not in scope for the 3.4
> release, and there is unfortunately some work to do first to comply with
> Apache's annoying licensing policies etc.
>
> there are some more not-yet-integrated CWSes that look a11y related:
>
> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/accfixes2/
> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/accfixes3/
> http://hg.services.openoffice.org/cws/accstuff/
>
> but i've never worked on a11y myself, so don't ask me what the status of
> any of this is.
>
> regards,
>   michael
>
>

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