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From Dave Fisher <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build OpenOffice?)
Date Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:19:30 GMT

On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Matt Richards wrote:

> Well, I thought Terry has resigned from the project according to another
> thread, leaving the wiki migration at a bit of a stand still.

As he did it he said he would finish his list, but whether he actually does so is irrelevant
to future support. The project will need more than one person able to admin these VMs in infrastructure.

> Figured I
> could step in and pick up where he left off on this. Am I able to, as a
> non-contributor reach out to Apache Infra on this (from what I read it seems
> the infra ML are for existing contributors only)? Not sure who all is
> involved at this point.

I started to write that you should introduce yourself, but I notice that you already had on
August 25th. When you did so you noted that you have some Linux admin experience. That's very

I hope that Drew will respond.

I am not sure about non-committers working with Infrastructure and what the best approach
would be. If a Mentor or someone form Infrastructure is lurking then I hope they will answer.

Best Regards,

> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dave Fisher <> wrote:
>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
>>> My understanding that it really is a test build and it has *not* been
>> maintained in synchronization with the operating version.  So
>> if that system started to be used as a production instance separate from
>>, it would be a fork and there would be some issues with that.
>> The plan was to put the existing wiki into read only and then do a final
>> export. That export would be used to build the final ooo-wiki. The next step
>> is to change the DNS. Once DNS is complete branding changes will be made.
>>> Also, I don't believe that would be an acceptable arrangement for Apache
>> Infrastructure, for important operational reasons.  Someone from there can
>> explain the rules for having a MediaWiki server being sustained.
>> Terry has said he will finish the work. It is possible that Drew can do it.
>> I know that Terry was documenting everything for Infrastructure.
>> Perhaps you should ask infra what they will require given the events of the
>> last days.
>> I also wonder what moderation and administrative situation exists on the
>> Wiki and if there is any overlap beyond Terry and Drew between these two
>> groups.
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> PS. A lot of us are older, let's have some consideration for other's health
>> and stress levels.
> I totally understand real life/health needs to come before any of these
> types of projects. No problem.
>>> - Dennis
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matt Richards []
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 08:32
>>> To:
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build
>> OpenOffice?)
>>> As far as point 2, I thought Terry had completed the all of the migration
>>> work and all that was left was to create a final export and cut over the
>> DNS
>>> entries? In my mind, if there is already a lot of content on the MW and
>> the
>>> Apache Foundation allows us to continue to use it, why not?
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Rob Weir <> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni <
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hmm ...
>>>>> It looks like  I missed where the decision to use MediiaWiki and
>>>> deprecate confluence
>>>>> was taken. I guess it was arranged with infra as long as MW is up to
>> date
>>>> and
>>>>> the extensions are documented.
>>>>> I am not complaining though: it sounds like lazy consensus in action
>> plus
>>>> we can
>>>>> always change mind later on and try the conversion script.
>>>> Do you have a counter-argument?   I think the factors are at play were:
>>>> 1) We have a huge amount of content already in MediaWiki from the
>>>> legacy project. Although it might be converted to Confluence, the
>>>> effort would be large.
>>>> on the other hand
>>>> 2) MediaWiki was not supported by Apache Infrastructure and getting it
>>>> supported and migrated would require a lot of admin work
>>>> So far, it looks like the admin effort has made more progress than the
>>>> translation effort.   Maybe not a final decision, but that is how it
>>>> looks to me today.
>>>> -Rob
>>>>> Pedro.
>>> --
>>> --Matt
> -- 
> --Matt

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