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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: AOOo can't save passwort protected file
Date Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:47:13 GMT
I use a series of older versions as part of my document forensics work.  In particular, I keep
ODF 1.1 processors around.

It happened that it is the default application in the same VM where I have OOo-dev 3.4 installed.
 So it opened by accident on a double-click where I was testing for the Save As with Password
problem, to see if it existed in OOo-dev 3.4.

So I found a down-level regression by happy accident.  And that had me learn that the OOo-dev
3.4 uses AES encryption by default, which no ODF 1.0/1.1 client will recognize, nor will many
ODF 1.2 apps not built to recognize anything more than the default encryption (there being
no requirement that they do otherwise).

To confirm how much down-version breakage there might be I tried these:

LibreOffice 3.4.2 fails on the document in exactly the same way that OO.o 2.4.1 does.  

So does Lotus Symphony 3.0.0 FP3.

So maybe the first Apache OO.o release should not switch from the default encryption algorithm
so hastily.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 10:30
Subject: Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
<> wrote:
> I agree that the OO.o 2.4.1 being unable to open the document is not this problem.

Is that a typo?  Or are you really debugging this with an OOo 2.4.1
release from 2008?

> It is an indication that something is occurring in the OOo-dev 3.4 package that breaks
down-level compatibility for no apparent reason, and a separate issue (not yet investigated).
> I FOUND IT: Beside using <manifest:manifest> manifest:version="1.2",
> OOO-dev 3.4 uses aes256-cbc as the encryption algorithm.  That is going to fail in any
down-level implementation that does not support this allowed but not default encryption.
> To see if the Save As with Password problem is related to choice of encryption method
(and what may or may not be in the build), I suggest trying the Save As with Password after
changing Tools | Options | Load/Save | General | ODF format version from 1.2 Extended to 1.2,
> and if that still fails, try ODF format 1.0/1.1 also.
> (I can't run that build, or I would do this myself.)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raphael Bircher []
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 01:01
> To:
> Subject: Re: AOOo can't save passwort protected file
> Hi Dennis
> Thank you for the test too
> Am 16.09.11 03:19, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton:
>> I can't confirm with an AOOo Build, but I did check the OOO-dev 3.4 on win32 to see
if the problem existed previously.  I was able to password protect (encrypt) a simple Writer
document.  It saved and opened fine (after I gave the password again.
> So this is maybe a regression
>> What was interesting to me was that OO.o 2.4.1 (Novell Edition) failed to open the
document and never got to recognizing that it was encrypted.  I got a bad XML message, suggesting
that an encrypted file was being mistakenly opened without decryption first.
> I think, that has nothing to do with it.
> Greetings Raphael
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