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Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:38:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Proposal] Give the BHV publishing house in Kaarst/Germany the
 permission to use the OpenOffice.org trademark and logo
From: Rob Weir <rob@robweir.com>
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Peter Junge <peter.junge@gmx.org> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On 29.08.2011 22:08, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Peter Junge<peter.junge@gmx.org> =C2=
=A0wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose --*seeking lazy consensus*-- that the BHV
>>> publishing
>>> GmbH, Novesiastrasse 60, D-41564 Kaarst (Germany) is permitted to use t=
he
>>> OpenOffice.org logo and trademark for their book (in preparation)
>>> "OpenOffice.org 3.3 f=C3=BCr Ein- und Umsteiger" [1] [2], means somethi=
ng like
>>> "OOo 3.3 for beginners and people who are migrating" in English. This
>>> package includes a handbook (printed and eBook) and a DVD with the OOo
>>> binaries. The OOo logo and trademark would be used on the book cover,
>>> within
>>> the book and on the label of the DVD. BHV has been publishing similar
>>> books
>>> for previous versions of OOo for many years, e.g. [3].
>>>
>>> I would like to advocate granting the OOo logo usage to BHV, as such
>>> books
>>> foster the public visibility of OOo.
>>>
> [...]
>>
>> A minor suggestion: =C2=A0I don't think we (as the PPMC) have the abilit=
y
>> to approve a request. =C2=A0Only Apache Branding can do that. =C2=A0But =
what we
>> can do is give a recommendation to Apache Branding.
>
> I guess you mean resubmitting the proposal to trademarks@a.o, right?
>

No.  I mean make a proposal on this list, asking for the PPMC to
recommend approcal.  Then, once we agree on the recommendation, then
you send a note to trademark@a.o and reference via a link the
recommendation from this list.

There may be other ways of doing this, but I think that is the simplest:

1) Get lazy consensus on a [PROPOSAL] to recommend that the trademark
permission be granted

3) Send the request to Apache Branding, with a link to the [PROPOSAL]
thread from #1

>>
>> So, if this is acceptable to you, could we re-word your proposal as:
>
> Of course.
>
> Best regards,
> Peter
>
>>
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> Proposed: =C2=A0The Apache OpenOffice.org Podling recommends to Apache
>> Branding that permission to use the OpenOffice.org trademark and logo
>> be granted to BHV publishing GmbH, Novesiastrasse 60, D-41564 Kaarst
>> (Germany) =C2=A0for their book (in preparation) "OpenOffice.org 3.3 f=C3=
=BCr
>> Ein- und Umsteiger" [1] [2]. =C2=A0This =C2=A0package includes a handboo=
k
>> (printed and eBook) and a DVD with the OOo binaries. The OOo logo and
>> trademark would be used on the book cover, within the book and on the
>> label of the DVD. BHV has been publishing similar books for previous
>> versions of OOo for many years, e.g. [3].
>>
>> [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/OpenOfficeSkribble.jpg
>> [2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/PI-OpenOfficeV33Pro.odt (including
>> ISBN code)
>> [3]
>> http://www.amazon.de/dp/3826673476?m=3DA3JWKAKR8XB7XF&tag=3Didealoversan=
d-21
>>
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mr. Ralf Kraft, representing BHV (nit subscribed to this ML) is on CC.
>>> (NOTE: The mock-up of the cover is still using the old OOo logo, but I
>>> already have been pointing out to Mr. Kraft that using the latest logo
>>> [4]
>>> would be preferred.)
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> [1] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/OpenOfficeSkribble.jpg
>>> [2] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8268859/PI-OpenOfficeV33Pro.odt (including
>>> ISBN
>>> code)
>>> [3]
>>> http://www.amazon.de/dp/3826673476?m=3DA3JWKAKR8XB7XF&tag=3Didealoversa=
nd-21
>>> [4] http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo
>>>
>