Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 36EA383B7 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 78973 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 18:31:14 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78734 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 18:31:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78726 invoked by uid 99); 14 Aug 2011 18:31:13 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:31:13 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of apache@robweir.com designates 66.147.249.253 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.147.249.253] (HELO oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com) (66.147.249.253) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:31:07 +0000 Received: (qmail 14707 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2011 18:30:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2011 18:30:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=robweir.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=+vOz++MCbdOVa4H71qHaO7KJDBHP20RwtHJ9Z+DZyns=; b=YJqK6EwXSUy69qnUC3I/vBs1UbpUu+QaOLh0ycRwyL9Bqslz8nJTIB2aobJwHv0VvWGBQP7GWjX0Rj+zjevCwBe4+uFj9vSUNdldh2Xuo8yZireTHYBeuubCPdg43QUR; Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1QsfSP-0005dB-1i for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 12:30:45 -0600 Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so5717380iym.0 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.49.133 with SMTP id va5mr3009913icb.306.1313346644254; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.223.1 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:30:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E480F53.80209@the-martin-byrd.net> References: <8151058839370557907@unknownmsgid> <133e716559f67b121374d6f83d310257@tutopia.com> <1313324798.30865.16.camel@sybil-gnome> <4E47CE41.1010306@hdsnet.hu> <1313330254.30865.31.camel@sybil-gnome> <20110814151148.GC3585@ulungele.erack.de> <1313338531.30865.47.camel@sybil-gnome> <1313341570.30865.57.camel@sybil-gnome> <4E480AE6.90704@the-martin-byrd.net> <4E480F53.80209@the-martin-byrd.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:30:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [www] Ext / Temp repository stability ( was Extensions and templates site down ) From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Identified-User: {1114:host181.hostmonster.com:robweirh:robweir.com} {sentby:smtp auth 209.85.210.169 authed with apache@robweir.com} On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Andy Brown wrot= e: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Andy Brown >> =C2=A0wrote: >>> >>> Rob Weir wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew =C2=A0 =C2= =A0wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [from out of left field] >>>>> Would members consider transferring ownership of the current reposito= ry >>>>> hosted on the OSUOSL server to a third party, perhaps created >>>>> specifically to take this over, and then working with them to create >>>>> the >>>>> indirect reference site under the AOO project, filtering out >>>>> un-acceptably licensed items as a way to achieving option #2. This >>>>> would >>>>> move the entire repository without needing to locate individual >>>>> authors. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I don't see how we can claim ownership of the content on the OSUOSL >>>> server. =C2=A0It was not part of the Oracle SGA, as far as I know. =C2= =A0So it >>>> is not ours to give to a 3rd party. >>> >>> Considering the fact that the URLs are part of service.openoffice.org a= nd >>> AOOo will be getting the domains as part of the SGA, then it would seem >>> that >>> we own them, at least the name. =C2=A0So the domain could be hosted any= where >>> that the PPMC see fit, even at OSUOSL. >>> >> >> That logic doesn't follow. =C2=A0Hypothetically there could be legacy >> OpenOffice.org URL's that contain Lady Gaga rips. =C2=A0That doesn't mea= n >> we have ownership of the music. >> >> We own the URL. =C2=A0We control what the URL points to. =C2=A0But that = doesn't >> mean we own what the URL points to. >> > > Please read all that I wrote, "at least the name. =C2=A0So the domain cou= ld be > hosted any where that the PPMC see fit." =C2=A0I agree that we may not ow= n the > content but if a 3rd party wished to host them the PPMC could give its > consent to do so and have the URLs point to that IP address. > OK. Sorry. It sounds like we have a similar understanding then. Our consent is not needed for them to host the extensions, but only for us to point (or redirect) our URL to their site. > Andy >