Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9064D7ECF for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:21:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 80346 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2011 22:21:39 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 80265 invoked by uid 500); 23 Aug 2011 22:21:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 80257 invoked by uid 99); 23 Aug 2011 22:21:38 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:21:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rabastus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.169] (HELO mail-iy0-f169.google.com) (209.85.210.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 22:21:33 +0000 Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so837170iym.0 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:21:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RMUtCUuCXC5KqdCecAA/k/OzO/Tkwk6WyINGH+/BuxA=; b=pTt4rHJ0sot4Pl5hVq55CdsPI+IZ1ZeNGyqSjKeYWXe0PqJCsH5aT5bJebAG6bd4qI D1O3E+i4AbWFyQ64e+2wu79/s+PQ3878Mmp7ZFv8S9E9BZ5z0J82BgXXxNkXLQsvEWI+ kQ3zs2SW3hMyAGao+aDf+wl4eBfqGXHsOv0WU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.243.66 with SMTP id ll2mr157122icb.352.1314138072832; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rabastus@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.213.131 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E518682.7080904@wtnet.de> <4E52C5D0.7000409@gmail.com> <4E52CB31.4000901@wtnet.de> <4E52CDE9.9050905@the-martin-byrd.net> <4E52DA7A.8060803@wtnet.de> <4E52E1C6.7030006@wtnet.de> <5B94ADB9-B002-44D2-94FA-4550F5B84DAA@comcast.net> <4E536EC7.1070103@wtnet.de> <20110823132950.GB23171@kulungile.erack.de> <4E53B39B.20503@wtnet.de> <014601cc61cd$de7f81f0$9b7e85d0$@acm.org> <4E5407D6.9060205@wtnet.de> <4E541605.9020802@wtnet.de> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:21:12 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2E3Lf-0bfFxaETHsPfcOZ8F1pO4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: users-JNqQRFIbOJOM4zKIHC2jIg@public.gmane.org [Was: Re: [Discussion] dev-JNqQRFIbOJOM4zKIHC2jIg@public.gmane.org] From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Larry Gusaas wrot= e: > On 2011-08-23 3:37 PM =C2=A0Rob Weir wrote: >> >> Does it matter? =C2=A0The English list is getting very little traffic. > > There were 56 posts to users@openoffice.org in the last week. Traffic is > highest after a new release. Here is a list by month for 2011: Jan 409 > =C2=A0Feb 290 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Mar 366 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Apr 197 =C2=A0 =C2=A0May = 218 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jun 233 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Jul 123 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Aug 160 > So the English support forum has 613 *active threads* for August alone. In many cases that multiplies out to multiple posts per thread. So the forum traffic dwarfs the mailing list traffic. >> =C2=A0A note was sent today asking about interest. =C2=A0I've seen zero = affirmative >> responses. > > You have now. How much response do you expect in six hours (working hours= in > NA) ? > So that is one. >> So I don't think any of the lists will get much traffic. >> But it makes sense to JFDI and move on to more important things. > > They will when you have a new release. > Forums will still dominate. > I am very pleased to hear that providing user support is not important. > That really doesn't add to the conversation, Larry. I think we have similar goals. Support is important. The question is how best to do it. If all we're doing is considering the merits of different access methods to support, without looking at the implications of fragmenting the repositories and the resulting knowledge base, then we are doing a poor job at thinking this through. Remember the best support site is the one that allows the user to answer their own question, without signing up for a mailing list or posting to a forum. We should be looking at how we can prevent user support questions. > > _________________________________ > Larry I. Gusaas > Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada > Website: http://larry-gusaas.com > "An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind > theirs." - Edgard Varese > > >