Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0611E8840 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17492 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 14:49:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17369 invoked by uid 500); 14 Aug 2011 14:49:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 17361 invoked by uid 99); 14 Aug 2011 14:49:36 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:49:36 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of apache@robweir.com designates 67.222.55.9 as permitted sender) Received: from [67.222.55.9] (HELO oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com) (67.222.55.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 14:49:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 12216 invoked by uid 0); 14 Aug 2011 14:49:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO host181.hostmonster.com) (74.220.207.181) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 14 Aug 2011 14:49:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=robweir.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version; bh=oip7rN53PdnmkBAQrX9FTgntowOUQs2FiAW1Z1xQVDc=; b=LpCUVRUUWntqfMM4w/3lWiLWPNgsyHSQr0uPWexASYNcOoT6lv7f4zw3b/mMzxHxs+ylkN3gQ/OK3AKQMo0EkxBaOl5mMHUSnXzPSdIP/ycWyMpgNBQNl4tFzVnta3kz; Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]) by host181.hostmonster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qsbzx-00009Z-Hj for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 08:49:09 -0600 Received: by iym1 with SMTP id 1so5436215iym.0 for ; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:49:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.189.71 with SMTP id dd7mr3158200icb.440.1313333348786; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.223.1 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Aug 2011 07:49:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110813184551.GA31794@ulungele.erack.de> <4E471557.4070903@the-martin-byrd.net> <4E4733DB.9030207@the-martin-byrd.net> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:49:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Fundraising From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Identified-User: {1114:host181.hostmonster.com:robweirh:robweir.com} {sentby:smtp auth 209.85.210.169 authed with apache@robweir.com} On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2011, at 14:24, Rob Weir wrote: > >> We have a trademark policy that states what uses are permitted without >> additional permission, and which uses may be allowed with specific >> permission from Apache. =C2=A0The policy does not differ based the >> incorporation status of the requestor. =C2=A0However, the application of >> the policy, on a case by cases basis, will obviously take into account >> the specific circumstances of the request. > > All true with regard to the use of trademarks, but mostly orthogonal to t= he question of the AOOo project's attitude towards third-party fundraisers.= AOOo is in a unique position compared with all prior Apache projects of wh= ich I am aware and the various comments on this thread indicate we need to = give thoughtful and clear guidance. > Agreed. But this guidance comes in response to thoughtful and clear proposal from an organization that wishes to use the trademark. >> So I think it would be unwise of us to give any >> blanket approval for trademark permissions to non-profits in general. >> We should take each case on its own merits. > > Noted and agreed, although I've not seen anyone propose otherwise. > > S. > >