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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:59:51 -0700
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Subject: Re: status of OpenOffice logo?
From: Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Rob Weir <apache@robweir.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are some first steps proceding with moving portions of the existng
> > OpenOffice.org site to Apache. See, for example,
> >
> > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/download/index.html
> >
> > This page lacks headers and footers, which brings me to...
> >
> > I know there's been discussion about the current OpenOffice.org logo
> >
> > vis a vis trademarks, possible changes due to Apache etc.
> >
> > But could someone give us an update on this?
> >
> > Can we use the existing logo without changes (i.e. ref to Apache?) or ???
> >
>
> Use the logo where?
>

Rob et al--

On the pages that are currently being migrated/created -- the link I sent
above is essentially the current OO.o download page without headers/
footers.


>
> > There seems to be few Apache projects. e.g Buildr, which don't seem to
> use
> > the Apache logo, and since there seems to be a consensus to keep
> > OpenOffice.org at a site openoffice.org, I'm wondering if we can just
> > proceed with what we ahve in terms of headers for web pages without
> change.
> >
>
> Which headers and footers?  The ones at OO.o that have the Oracle and
> the Project Kenai logos and have the statement "Oracle and Java are
> registered trademarks of Oracle and/or its affiliates"?   I don't
> think we will want to keep that page footer unchanged.
>

yes, right--of course we would exclude these references.


>
> I think the way to think of this is:
>
> 1) Oracle owns the trademark in the name "OpenOffice.org" and in the
> graphical logo.  This trademark is registered in several countries.
>
> 2) Oracle has stated that they will assign these trademarks to Apache.
> This involves paperwork in multiple countries and will take time.
> Andrew Rist is the best one to give an update on where they are in
> that process.
>

ah, OK. Thanks.


>
> 3) Once transferred to Apache then we can use the logo per Apache
> Branding Requirements:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
>
> 4) If we want to create a different version of that logo (if that is
> what you are asking about) then this is really two questions:
>
> a) Do we have the right to modify the logo?  I think that would be
> yes.  We can create derived works if we own the copyright to the logo.
>
> b) What is the status of the modified logo?  I have no idea what that
> does in terms of trademark.  In particular, would it mean we need to
> register the modified logo?  If this comes up as a direction we want
> to take, we'd need to consult with Apache Branding on this.
>

OK, and thanks for your response.


>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > --
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> > MzK
> >
> > "If you can keep your head when all others around you
> >  are losing theirs - maybe you don't fully understand
> >  the situation!"
> >                            -- Unknown
> >
>


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