Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A9617A03 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27531 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2011 16:17:33 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27396 invoked by uid 500); 11 Aug 2011 16:17:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 27384 invoked by uid 99); 11 Aug 2011 16:17:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:17:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: 66.94.237.222 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of kay.schenk@gmail.com) Received: from [66.94.237.222] (HELO nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.222) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 16:17:22 +0000 Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2011 16:17:00 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.117] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2011 16:17:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2011 16:17:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 922621.92031.bm@omp1022.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 29163 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2011 16:17:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1313079420; bh=FF3fhwpIa6jZPqA9wCVvV8NGY+xNNHL8uG1s85S/jKk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=no/k8nDaS6yV3htayewtMIpAv8K70KANWEaUg6mwlhpuZWWF82QDtkQicmXKjOw8OSVd8H07DGFuJgpKpwmMQFzyMp2wtlEZ6McRPkZU6BJryBt9fEnBW/7mGfeYN4BEHT196eeNeMkEb0NDCGym1Ogf0uQ1ns1GeZ96PS1Ncdk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1i5hnSMVM1mXNLKPQQ_Ki.wzES78I0MBkfYQtMVVhzkbdJ6 L1EamOugQAUpWbdjSdVWO9Lix3ZAYl1L1Dkp4V6lskAI_D8wjroErYcSW4xm cYhVARKYT9ntYbjHn08e.pJn5K45QB7YsdsuutgH7YRoUly5DzOJfIpDT8nT Dr4JlHJ4Xvv.G1CF9amsUXjsbL9IA7IMQoJNWyHMtNHugM71zj5Q42RK5eG3 .ERj5lPYGOstJPRnnSo3V5qxS2h.hK4SbdPGrSbfAePyvgHpxNV2oQqfvrk1 x8FdIW7sF2QITxgvnTibNT4JGUVKQJC4DG4qNQIjev.u744U3w_XDNC3HQHu 36uRkdi5_vZRPtmKyc6excyO1mjo7czcvLyiByJxbhdpn.sMfSrmiTKlyDNZ mJCIz6av2ilJSm9sI_DbfiAKdzmWko1D9uqszE0ZWWHjQJIieS2yrJvWWHwy q59FRgcdaHUXuJQJMNrt1XuRJJqJbxovRnBgWmHZETcfP X-Yahoo-SMTP: dHt73eiswBAYjuZ6oL.TTjbe.KQkAIve Received: from [192.168.1.108] (kay.schenk@69.106.221.70 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2011 09:17:00 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <4E43FF5F.1010202@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:12:15 -0700 From: Kay Schenk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 SUSE/3.1.11 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: [www] html instead of markdown (mdtext)? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I am proposing that we adopt plain HTML for the OOo website instead of the current markdown (mdtext) implementation. I hesitate to make this recommendation given ALL the time and research Dave and others have already spent on the current incubator website, but, I feel, given that we will be migrating a rather large existing site, it makes sense. I also realize that doing this will "break" the ability to use the webgui editing capability of the Apache CMS, forcing everyone to use svn for page updates. However, I don't have a good feel right now for the ultimate impact of that -- e.g. what do we expect in terms of web site editors. This would allow us to continue to use the default template system (Dotiac::DTL) but eliminate the need for wrapping or intermixing markdown text with normal HTML. HTML files shouldn't require any "wrapping" functions at all I think, since this is the indigenous format for web servers. We would have to bypass header, footer and navigation items for anything that *isn't* html, like js, css files. Unfortunately, I've had a very difficult time this week trying to find any information on the setup details of Dotiac::DTL (documentation not available) -- the relationship of the two .pm files to the template areas, etc. I took at look around at many the Apache web areas (svn) at: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ You will see, as I did, that the vast majority are not using markdown, and this is NOT a requirement. Anyway, thoughts/comments on this proposal? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MzK "Those who love deeply never grow old; they may die of old age, but they die young." -- Sir Arthur Pinero