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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:54:48 +0200
From: Eike Rathke <ooo@erack.de>
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Subject: Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7
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Hi,

I'm going to warm this up, as legal seems to have no definite opinion on
it and effectively suggests the project has to establish its process and
decide how it will handle larger contributions. See
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201108.mbox/%3CC=
23DED33-C4D1-454B-9A52-55281A4144F9@oracle.com%3E

So, only one question:

Will AOOo accept code contributions under AL2, be it on the mailing
list, as JIRA attachment, or otherwise with consent of the original
author, without the author having signed an iCLA?

My position on this: yes, it should.

  Eike


On Friday, 2011-08-12 18:53:41 +0200, Michael Stahl wrote:

> hi Apache mentors,
>=20
> i've got a question as to what extent an ICLA from the copyright
> holder is required for code contributions.
>=20
> a volunteer who is currently working in GSoC over at LibreOffice
> (who has not signed an Apache ICLA) has given me permission to
> contribute a bunch of makefiles that he wrote, with no licensing
> restriction.
>=20
> now the ICLA contains this paragraph:
>=20
> >7. Should You wish to submit work that is not Your original creation,
> >   You may submit it to the Foundation separately from any
> >   Contribution, identifying the complete details of its source and of
> >   any license or other restriction (including, but not limited to,
> >   related patents, trademarks, and license agreements) of which you
> >   are personally aware, and conspicuously marking the work as
> >   "Submitted on behalf of a third-party: [named here]".
>=20
> so it seems to me that an ICLA from the copyright holder is not an
> absolute requirement to contribute to Apache.
>=20
> is there any restriction in scope or otherwise for this paragraph?
>=20
> what exactly are the process requirements?
>=20
> my assumption is that the Committer must ask the potential
> contributor whether they actually hold the copyright.
>=20
> i guess "submit it separately" means that it must be its own SVN
> commit, not mixed with anything the Committer wrote him/herself.
>=20
> is it sufficient to put something like this into the SVN commit message:
> "Submitted on behalf of a third party: [author name]; no licensing
> restrictions"
>=20
> is it necessary to ask on the mailing list in every instance?
>=20
> in this case we are talking about ~30 new files, totalling ~2000 lines
> (of which ~1000 are the boilerplate licensing headers...).
>=20
> regards,
>  michael
>=20

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