Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DFF1A861F for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 73260 invoked by uid 500); 20 Aug 2011 19:18:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73201 invoked by uid 500); 20 Aug 2011 19:18:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 73193 invoked by uid 99); 20 Aug 2011 19:18:30 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:18:30 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.30.56 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.30.56] (HELO qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.56) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:18:20 +0000 Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Nj8F1h0041eYJf8A6jHu8n; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:17:54 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([67.180.51.144]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id NjKa1h00Q36gVt701jKaLN; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:19:35 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: [Discuss] ASF hosted openoffice.org email service [Was: Re: [Discussion] dev@openoffice.org] From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: <4E4FF44E.6000401@shanecurcuru.org> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 12:17:56 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <14D88004-C290-40B3-9A24-077CB0C5B5E5@comcast.net> References: <4E4E6144.6050503@wtnet.de> <4E4E9456.8090509@wtnet.de> <4E4E9DCA.1050400@gmx.net> <229D299C-7F8F-4D83-875F-07BDC6795A83@comcast.net> <4E4ECE82.7040007@cfl.rr.com> <4E4FF44E.6000401@shanecurcuru.org> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Changing the subject as requested by Daniel On Aug 20, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > On 8/19/2011 4:58 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: >> Hi, Dave >> On 8/19/2011 13:48, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: >>>=20 >> [snip] >>>> The foobar@openoffice.org mail addresses OTOH should be preserved. = They >>>> are only forwarding addresses now and they can be kept that way, >>>> can't they? >>>=20 >>> Not sure about it. There are considerations. >>>=20 >>> (1) How do we get the forwarding data from Oracle? Is it legal to >>> transfer the list, or is it required? >>>=20 >>> (2) Will the ASF host this forwarding on the normal apache.org mail >>> servers >>>=20 >>> (3) Who on the OOO PPMC will handle the daily administration of = these >>> forwarders as individual email addresses change? >>>=20 >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>>=20 >> For (1) and (3): the addresses are part of the account with OO.o. The >> forwarding address is the user's registered (verified) email address = for >> the account. Accordingly, the info will be transferred with the = account >> data, and is administered (for changes) by the user. >>=20 >> (2) Can't really say if ASF can/will forward. Why not? >=20 > Currently, ASF infra provides mail forwarding and sending capability = for committers, but no-one else. Committers are people who have shown = clear merit (i.e. they've been voted in by one of our project = communities) and also have signed an iCLA, so we have some sort of = relationship with them. >=20 > Personally, I would not envision allowing any new me@oo.o email = addresses to be created, unless they're for committers (who should = probably use an @apache.org id instead). I don't quite know what to do = with the many existing aliases, however. Short term we certainly can = keep them (seem useful to people) but long term we would indeed need to = see how 1) infra would support it, and 2) how the future PMC would = provide oversight and manage any account issues (oh, yeah, that's your = (3) above. How would Infra support email forwarding for the openoffice.org domain? = Would there be a text or xml file with a forwarding map in svn = somewhere? Would all the email automatically go through spamassassin = before forwarding? If we had a single mapping then we can include redirection for all of = the 100s of current OOo MLs into the several AOOo MLs along with the = many individual emails. Regards, Dave >=20 > - Shane