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From Rob Weir <apa...@robweir.com>
Subject Re: [www] Any Drupal guru's lurking? ( was : Ext / Temp repository stability ( was Extensions and templates site down ))
Date Tue, 16 Aug 2011 20:02:09 GMT
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It just needs to be cleared by legal/board.
> While hosting non-OSS plugins is probably out,
> I don't see why we can't host OSS ones here
> especially if we don't change the dns from
> openoffice.org to apache.org.
>
> We already host modules.apache.org which provides
> a similar service for httpd modules.  One essential
> implementation difference is that the downloads aren't
> served by us, we just point users at the offsite
> sources and only host metadata.  Technically that's
> probably what I'd like to see happen to the ooo
> extensions site as well before bringing it in house.
>

We had talked on another thread about a longer-term approach where we
would host a registry of externally-hosted extensions.  That kind of
solutions has a lot of attractive qualities.

Do you know anything about the http modules registry, e.g., where the
code is?  That might be something we could use to jump-start an
extensions registry.  It has the basics.

>
>
>
>>________________________________
>>From: Rob Weir <apache@robweir.com>
>>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2011 2:45 PM
>>Subject: Re: [www] Any Drupal guru's lurking? ( was : Ext / Temp repository stability
( was Extensions and templates site down ))
>>
>>On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 14:49 -0400, drew wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 11:42 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> > On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:39 AM, drew wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 11:18 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>> > >> On Aug 14, 2011, at 11:06 AM, drew wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 13:37 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>> > >>>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:06 PM, drew <drew@baseanswers.com>
wrote:
>>>> > > <big snip>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Just hit the templates site and it's back, I would rather
we ask the
>>>> > >>> current admin about what, if any, maintenance is needing
done on the
>>>> > >>> site, and then we should offer, if it would help, to try
and find some
>>>> > >>> volunteer help to get that done, asap.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Here is what an OSUOSL admin said in July when this happened
last:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked
it. The site(s)
>>>> > >>> should be back online now.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> The sites have been in an unstable state for quite a while
mostly
>>>> > >>> because neither we (OSL) nor Sun/Oracle had time to fix
the performance
>>>> > >>> issues both of the sites entails. Couple that with the
fact that the
>>>> > >>> machines they power those sites are very underpower considering
the load
>>>> > >>> they take. It's gotten so bad that we've turned off notifications
>>>> > >>> because they just go off all the time.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> What really needs to happen is to have the sites completely
>>>> > >>> re-architected from the ground up with scaling in mind.
At least one of
>>>> > >>> the sites is a stock Drupal 5.0 with a very hacked core.
I know some
>>>> > >>> Sun/Oracle engineers had been working on fixing that into
a Drupal 6
>>>> > >>> module but I'm not sure where that left off.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Anyways, If you would like some more help with how these
sites can be
>>>> > >>> fixed moving forward, please let me know. But we are strectched
thin for
>>>> > >>> resources.
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Thanks-
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The offer is there. I'll give anyone the admin's email and
off the list if you want to contact him.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > > Howdy Dave
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Well I'll not be much technical help with Drupal, however I can
start by
>>>> > > posting an email to the Apache infra ML and see if maybe there
is
>>>> > > someone skilled in the art willing to work with our current admin
and
>>>> > > the osu admin. I'll do that in a little bit here, if no one minds.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ideally someone here on the ML would be a Drupal guru.
>>>>
>>>> I'll send this one then - and if needed the other after a day or so..;-)
>>>
>>> Alright - well just tried to hit the extension site (from the OO.o front
>>> page) 6 times, 5 'connection reset', 1 time success - then clicked on
>>> templates and 'connection reset'
>>>
>>> No hands up here yet that I've seen.
>>>
>>> People do want to have this site up, yes?
>>>
>>> So - I said I'd not be much help, that isn't the same as no help.
>>>
>>> I assume all the drupal setup is under version control, or is it just
>>> the custom changes (with any schema changes) - either way I can setup a
>>> VM here and see about tackling an update from 5 to 6 (not 7???)
>>>
>>
>>What are you trying to accomplish?
>>
>>I thought the fact that the extensions site was hosting software
>>downloads that were not all under the Apache 2.0 license, and in some
>>cases were not even OSS, made it impossible for us to be hosting the
>>site on Apache servers.
>>
>>
>>> _while_
>>>
>>> Sending an email to the apache infra ml looking for additional help.
>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>> //drew
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> //drew
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>

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