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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Scope/Mission of AOOo
Date Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:17:59 GMT
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Rob Weir <robweir@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you have withdrawn that proposal, then please state so and share
>>> with us with your new proposal.  I'd love to hear it.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I still believe we need a realistic discussion around those topics, Rob.
>> Your view appears to be that proposals are immutable and to be accepted or
>> rejected rather than considered, adapted and evolved. I just gave you
>> proposals for discussion and I invite you to attempt positive and
>> constructive discussion around them rather than conducting endless
>> standards-committee-points-scoring.
>>
>
> Could you point us to your proposal?  Or should we still be looking at
> your earlier proposal, the one I linked to?  When you have a new
> proposal, I'll be glad to comment.
>
> But note that a proposal to discuss something isn't really a proposal.
>  A proposal is a proposal for a particular action.  We should try to
> limit undirected chatter on this list.  This is a working list, for
> AOOo dev.  We need to preserve focus.
>

Should note also that proposals of the form "I think we should do X"
are a cheap, a dime a dozen, and rarely progress the project.
Proposals of the form "I would like do X" are golden and move the
project forward.  That is the "do-ocracy" aspect of the Apache
meritocracy.

>
> -Rob
>
>> S.
>>
>

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