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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Mail Tags
Date Mon, 08 Aug 2011 16:40:19 GMT
On 8 August 2011 17:35, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
> I propose we establish a convention to insert proposed mailing list names
> into the subject of any message to this list that relates to a subject that
> could potentially require its own list long-term. From scanning the list I
> suggest the following initial tags:
>
> [Wiki]  - the migration of the OOo wiki to Apache, including page design
> [Repo] - the migration of the OOo source to a suitable combination of VCSs
>
> If we find that these tags have sustained use over a reasonable period (say
> 45 days) that would result in a viable mailing list, I further propose
> creation of a new list where they could both be hosted (such as admin@ )

+1

Although I'd suggest the best way to make this happen is to just start
doing it and let people follow suit if they find it useful. Consistent
tags will emerge, no need to define them in advance (although it is
certainly helpful to have examples of use like this - thanks Simon).

Ross


>
> S.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
>> Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
>>
>>  My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross is
>>> exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the
>>> proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using
>>> them. Once we know there is enough traffic under a specific tag, it's then
>>> good to create a list with that name if everyone agrees.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> BTW:
>> I'm using subdirs in my mail account to sort my mails. So, no need to keep
>> every mail in the inbox itself and then loose the overview. ;-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On 8 Aug 2011, at 13:27, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weir<apache@robweir.com>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton<wolf.halton@gmail.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise that traffic is
>>>> very high right now but it will die down. Splitting lists splits the
>>>> community, at this stage we are trying to build community.
>>>>
>>>> There are better techniques than splitting the community up. For
>>>> example, the list should adopt a practice of tagging subject lines so
>>>> that people can filter appropriately. Sorry rather then a "Web
>>>> Content" list mails in this topic are should have subjects of the form
>>>> "[web] foo".
>>>>
>>>>  I certainly see the need here.  But I wonder if we can make it a
>>>>> general "sysops" or "operations" list and have it be the place for
>>>>> admins/moderators of the wiki, the phpBB forums, Bugzilla, etc., to
>>>>> coordinate. I think we want to encourage these groups to stay in close
>>>>> contact with each other.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Generally the pull requirements for forums are less effective for
>>>> community building than the push of mailing lists, at least where we
>>>> are talking about technical users. EMail clients are very powerful,
>>>> forums are not. Email works offline, forums do not. etc.
>>>>
>>>>  Why?  Because we can easily see the
>>>>> advantages of linking these systems together in advanced ways.  For
>>>>> example:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Easy way to promote a support forum question into a bugzilla issue
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No advantage over mail lists.
>>>>
>>>>  2) Easy way to initiate a search of the documentation before entering
>>>>> a support forum post
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can be useful for user focussed resources but the initial proposal is
>>>> for "administering the
>>>> wiki daily operations would go, and documentation of versions of OOo".
>>>> Are you really going to force admins to do this, or are you going to
>>>> trust them?
>>>>
>>>>  3) Content analytics performed on support forum to identify new
>>>>> candidates for FAQ items
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No advantage over mail lists.
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>
>
>
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> Simon Phipps
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>



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Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
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OpenDirective http://opendirective.com

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