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From J├╝rgen Schmidt <jogischm...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Mail Tags
Date Wed, 10 Aug 2011 15:23:39 GMT
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:

> On 8 August 2011 17:35, Simon Phipps <simon@webmink.com> wrote:
> > I propose we establish a convention to insert proposed mailing list names
> > into the subject of any message to this list that relates to a subject
> that
> > could potentially require its own list long-term. From scanning the list
> I
> > suggest the following initial tags:
> >
> > [Wiki]  - the migration of the OOo wiki to Apache, including page design
> > [Repo] - the migration of the OOo source to a suitable combination of
> VCSs
> >
> > If we find that these tags have sustained use over a reasonable period
> (say
> > 45 days) that would result in a viable mailing list, I further propose
> > creation of a new list where they could both be hosted (such as admin@ )
>
> +1
>
> Although I'd suggest the best way to make this happen is to just start
> doing it and let people follow suit if they find it useful. Consistent
> tags will emerge, no need to define them in advance (although it is
> certainly helpful to have examples of use like this - thanks Simon).
>
> +1 (sometimes it's better to read some more unread and older mails before
answering one)

Juergen


> Ross
>
>
> >
> > S.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
> >>
> >>  My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross
> is
> >>> exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the
> >>> proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using
> >>> them. Once we know there is enough traffic under a specific tag, it's
> then
> >>> good to create a list with that name if everyone agrees.
> >>>
> >>> S.
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> BTW:
> >> I'm using subdirs in my mail account to sort my mails. So, no need to
> keep
> >> every mail in the inbox itself and then loose the overview. ;-)
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>  On 8 Aug 2011, at 13:27, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weir<apache@robweir.com>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton<wolf.halton@gmail.com>
> >>>>>  wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise that traffic is
> >>>> very high right now but it will die down. Splitting lists splits the
> >>>> community, at this stage we are trying to build community.
> >>>>
> >>>> There are better techniques than splitting the community up. For
> >>>> example, the list should adopt a practice of tagging subject lines so
> >>>> that people can filter appropriately. Sorry rather then a "Web
> >>>> Content" list mails in this topic are should have subjects of the form
> >>>> "[web] foo".
> >>>>
> >>>>  I certainly see the need here.  But I wonder if we can make it a
> >>>>> general "sysops" or "operations" list and have it be the place for
> >>>>> admins/moderators of the wiki, the phpBB forums, Bugzilla, etc.,
to
> >>>>> coordinate. I think we want to encourage these groups to stay in
> close
> >>>>> contact with each other.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Generally the pull requirements for forums are less effective for
> >>>> community building than the push of mailing lists, at least where we
> >>>> are talking about technical users. EMail clients are very powerful,
> >>>> forums are not. Email works offline, forums do not. etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>  Why?  Because we can easily see the
> >>>>> advantages of linking these systems together in advanced ways. 
For
> >>>>> example:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Easy way to promote a support forum question into a bugzilla
issue
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No advantage over mail lists.
> >>>>
> >>>>  2) Easy way to initiate a search of the documentation before entering
> >>>>> a support forum post
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Can be useful for user focussed resources but the initial proposal is
> >>>> for "administering the
> >>>> wiki daily operations would go, and documentation of versions of OOo".
> >>>> Are you really going to force admins to do this, or are you going to
> >>>> trust them?
> >>>>
> >>>>  3) Content analytics performed on support forum to identify new
> >>>>> candidates for FAQ items
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> No advantage over mail lists.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ross
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Simon Phipps
> > +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
> Programme Leader (Open Development)
> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
>

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