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From eric b <>
Subject Re: Fundraising
Date Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:47:44 GMT

Le 14 août 11 à 12:24, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :

> On 14/08/2011 eric b wrote:
>> Le 13 août 11 à 17:44, Andrea Pescetti a écrit :
>>> PLIO, the association corresponding to the Italian Native-Lang
>>> Project, has been a registered charity in Italy since 2005 and
>>> receives contributions from Italian taxpayers, that we invest  
>>> back in
>>> activities.
>> Is it still the case ? Was an action for made since  
>> last
>> year (e.g.) ?
> We localized and released 3.3.0 in Italian, we kept  
> the Italian Dictionary extension up-to-date with regular releases,  
> we made some QA on 3.4 beta, we held our regular  
> annual assembly at the end of April 2011 and we approved projects  
> that are still inherently fuzzy due the obviously unstable  
> situation that has persisted from April until now.
> (But, especially as we are on this mailing list, I have to state  
> that, while I am a Board Member of PLIO, I cannot speak on behalf  
> of PLIO; head to if you want to officially  
> contact PLIO).


>>> However, on our pages we
>>> don't mention this: we only use for advertising
>>> and fundraising. So we are not affected by the
>>> fundraising policy.
>> I read the content of the site you mentionned aboce, and it looks
>> abandoned : the last articles are not recent IMHO.
> Both sites have been in minimal maintenance for years, but not  
> abandoned at all.
> On we had to wait years for the  
> infrastructure migration to Kenai, that came in February 2011 when  
> the future of and of that infrastructure became less  
> and less certain (and I'm now glad that we didn't waste time on  
> updating a web infrastructure that is not going to last).
> On we publish 4-5 articles per year, mostly  
> coincident with releases and conference. So I'd say  
> it's normal that the latest article is about OOo 3.3.0: we would  
> have more recent articles, had there been new releases or a  
> conference.

Wasn't there something about 3.4.0 ? I remember there was an rc ?

>> More recently, PLIO members posted that :
>> libreoffice-plio.aspx
>> (I found other PR about PLIO)
> I don't understand this. Anyway, the facts stated there are correct  
> (basically, PLIO goes on in spite of whatever arguments  
> corporations or groups have, and we give community support to  
> everyone). If you find this relevant, Italo Vignoli is no longer  
> President of PLIO.

I was not aware about Italo Vignoli, thanks for the info. and are .. I'd say not correctly maintained   
(because owned by pro-LO people). As you understood, my concern is  : Marina Latini does a fantastic work and helps us a lot.

I'm simply colllecting information in fact :-)

>> Can you please explain us more what is the current PLIO goal ?
> Our statute is online at and it dates back to  
> 2005; especially on this mailing list, it suffices to say that PLIO  
> is a charity that, through (unpaid) volunteer activity by its  
> members, aims at improving and promoting, related  
> software, auxiliary tools, open formats and free software in general.

I'd like to understand who PLIO does support exactly.

What I read told me PLIO has choosen LibreOffice, and that's why I  
ask. Please think I limit my analyze to just facts, and there is no  
statement from my part.

> (Again, if someone missed it: I'm not entitled to speak officially  
> on behalf of PLIO, but as long as it may be relevant to this  
> mailing list I'll provide information about how it works).

I understand, thanks for your frank answer :-)

Last but not least, I'll attend Milano Linux Days (22 October). Maybe  
we could discuss more about that ?

Eric Bachard

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