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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Discussion] dev@openoffice.org
Date Mon, 22 Aug 2011 21:10:40 GMT


On 08/21/2011 03:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> I've updated the text on "http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html"
> (with borrowed text from Mathias).
>
> Marcus

That should help a bit I think! :)
>
>
>
> Am 08/19/2011 07:57 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> Am 08/19/2011 07:29 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Am 08/19/2011 06:34 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> So why wouldn't we want to shut down that list?
>>>>
>>>> Why are you asking when you want to do it anyway? ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Clearly I have my own opinion on this. But I'd like to understand the
>>> counter-argument, if there is one.
>>
>> OK, didn't knew this.
>>
>>>>> Real posts at dev@openoffice.org are infrequent and are not getting
>>>>> responded to. But ooo-dev is clearly where the thriving dev
>>>>> discussion is occurring.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aren't these good reasons to consolidate the dev discussion in one
>>>>> place? Is there any advantage to have it be fragmented across two
>>>>> lists, especially if one list is mainly getting spam?
>>>>
>>>> If so, it would be the same reason to shutdown also other mailing
>>>> lists. So,
>>>> we could do it will all.
>>>
>>> I think the dev list is special, because we have an active Apache list
>>> that has the identical purpose. The same is not true for many other
>>> OO.org lists.
>>
>> There is nothing special. For OOo we had hundreds of ML to keep the
>> traffic in the right channels.
>>
>> Her at AOO we have only one. So all traffic (and it's more than just dev
>> related) into 1 ML.
>>
>> For me there is no real difference.
>>
>>>> As Mathias said, the shutdown will happen anyway. No need to force it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We are currently missing opportunities when new volunteers post to the
>>> other list and do not get a response. Also, existing subscribers to
>>> the dev@openoffice.org list are missing out on the discussions we are
>>> having regarding things like reorganizing the source repository, etc.
>>>
>>> The goal should be to encourage existing subscribers to move over to
>>
>> You have told this already. Then just write a note to dev@ooo; if
>> Mathias hasn't done it already. ;-)
>>
>>> ooo-dev. There are several ways of doing this. An announcement, like
>>> Matthias sent, is a good thing. Maybe also update this page:
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/mail_list.html
>>>
>>> For lists that have been migrated, put instructions there on how to
>>> subscribe to the Apache list.
>>
>> Good point, let me see if I can do something. But to have a real success
>> we need to make this change everywhere. And IMHO this is not possible;
>> or at least it's a not maintainable effort.
>>
>>> If we delay shutting down the list until a later point, that is fine
>>> with me. I just wanted to see if anyone thought there was a reason to
>>> preserve the list longer-term.
>>
>> OK
>>
>> Marcus

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