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From Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Mail Tags
Date Mon, 08 Aug 2011 17:38:07 GMT


On 08/08/2011 09:35 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
> I propose we establish a convention to insert proposed mailing list names
> into the subject of any message to this list that relates to a subject that
> could potentially require its own list long-term. From scanning the list I
> suggest the following initial tags:
>
> [Wiki]  - the migration of the OOo wiki to Apache, including page design
> [Repo] - the migration of the OOo source to a suitable combination of VCSs

wonderful idea!
+1

>
> If we find that these tags have sustained use over a reasonable period (say
> 45 days) that would result in a viable mailing list, I further propose
> creation of a new list where they could both be hosted (such as admin@ )
>
> S.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Marcus (OOo)<marcus.mail@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
>>
>>   My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross is
>>> exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the
>>> proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using
>>> them. Once we know there is enough traffic under a specific tag, it's then
>>> good to create a list with that name if everyone agrees.
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> BTW:
>> I'm using subdirs in my mail account to sort my mails. So, no need to keep
>> every mail in the inbox itself and then loose the overview. ;-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 8 Aug 2011, at 13:27, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>
>>>   On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weir<apache@robweir.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton<wolf.halton@gmail.com>
>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise that traffic is
>>>> very high right now but it will die down. Splitting lists splits the
>>>> community, at this stage we are trying to build community.
>>>>
>>>> There are better techniques than splitting the community up. For
>>>> example, the list should adopt a practice of tagging subject lines so
>>>> that people can filter appropriately. Sorry rather then a "Web
>>>> Content" list mails in this topic are should have subjects of the form
>>>> "[web] foo".
>>>>
>>>>   I certainly see the need here.  But I wonder if we can make it a
>>>>> general "sysops" or "operations" list and have it be the place for
>>>>> admins/moderators of the wiki, the phpBB forums, Bugzilla, etc., to
>>>>> coordinate. I think we want to encourage these groups to stay in close
>>>>> contact with each other.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Generally the pull requirements for forums are less effective for
>>>> community building than the push of mailing lists, at least where we
>>>> are talking about technical users. EMail clients are very powerful,
>>>> forums are not. Email works offline, forums do not. etc.
>>>>
>>>>   Why?  Because we can easily see the
>>>>> advantages of linking these systems together in advanced ways.  For
>>>>> example:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Easy way to promote a support forum question into a bugzilla issue
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No advantage over mail lists.
>>>>
>>>>   2) Easy way to initiate a search of the documentation before entering
>>>>> a support forum post
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can be useful for user focussed resources but the initial proposal is
>>>> for "administering the
>>>> wiki daily operations would go, and documentation of versions of OOo".
>>>> Are you really going to force admins to do this, or are you going to
>>>> trust them?
>>>>
>>>>   3) Content analytics performed on support forum to identify new
>>>>> candidates for FAQ items
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No advantage over mail lists.
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
>>>
>
>

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