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From "Gavin McDonald" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Subject RE: How to handle the downloads?
Date Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:38:35 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 6:45 PM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads?
> 
> Am 08/03/2011 02:17 AM, schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 9:40 AM
> >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads?
> >>
> >> Am 08/02/2011 11:03 PM, schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Marcus (OOo) [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011 12:55 AM
> >>>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: How to handle the downloads?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for you note. Then we should implement adownload method
> >>>> withthe fllowing order:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. User clicks on the One-Click-Download URL and get the software
> >>>> (like today on "download.openoffice.org").
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. If not, he can use alternative download links (like today on
> >>>> "download.openoffice.org/pther.html").
> >>>>
> >>>> 3. If a special mirror has to be used, the list of all available
> >>>> mirrors
> >>> will help
> >>>> (like today on
"http://distribution.openoffice.org/mirrors/#mirrors").
> >>>>
> >>>> Latest with step 3 all users should be able to download something.
> >>>
> >>> Yep, all possible here at the ASF right now.
> >>>
> >>> See www.apache.org/mirrors for our equiv of step 3.
> >>
> >> I've already understood that you don't want the OOo mirrors but that
> >> we should use the Apache ones. ;-)
> >
> > Hi Marcus,
> >
> > don't count me as 100% on that yet, I want to know more about the OOo
> > mirrors too.
> 
> OK, if you have already questions just ask and I will try to give answers.

not yet, working on it,

> 
> > I just didn't want to be maintaining 150+ projects on one mirror
> > system and
> > 1 project
> > on another mirror system. maintaining one mirror system is easier, so
> > If that is possible and our mirroring system can cope, and we can
> > maybe coax a few more mirrors our way all the better. Some of our
> > existing mirrors may decide that bandwidth is too much and leave, so
> > we need replacements.
> 
> I don't know about bandwidth but to get an impression about size and
> amount please have a look here. This mirror has rsync'ed everything that
was
> released by Sun and Oracle:
> 
> http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/openoffice/

thanks,

> 
> > If it makes sense to try and merge these somehow, I want to pursue
> > that avenue.
> 
> A first step should be to look for doubles.

yep,

> 
> > We may need both for some time, we can not put non ASF releases on our
> > mirroring system anyway so what we are trying to resolve is from our
> > first ASF release onwards.
> 
> Hm, when looking at this mirror it is already hosting non-Apache software:
> 
> ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/
> 
> Software from Apache and, e.g., OpenOffice.org is just a subset within
many
> other projects.

Sorry, that isn't what I meant. The mirrors get their content from us right,
we can not
provide them with non-asf released software to put on their mirror copy of
our
dist tree [1] . They are of course welcome to provide non-asf mirrors as
most of them already do.

[1] - http://apache.org/dist/

Gav...

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
> >>>> Am 08/02/2011 04:38 PM, schrieb Donald Whytock:
> >>>>> A consideration...I for one have a need to be able to select my
> >>>>> mirror.  My office's firewall blocks certain domains and websites,
> >>>>> especially those recognized as "hosting" or "file-sharing" sites.
> >>>>> It does not, however, block .edu sites, so when I download an
> >>>>> Apache product I select a university mirror.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other users may have similar constraints.  If OOo's download
> >>>>> process is going to tie into Apache mirroring, please don't
> >>>>> completely eliminate the capacity to select the mirror.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don


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