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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Gmane address encryption (was: Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?)
Date Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:49:32 GMT

I don't have access to those techniques in my e-mail client.  Nor in my news reader.  

 - Dennis

[Please everyone: no suggestions for what software would do that.  I'm not changing over my
infrastructure for this one situation.]

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Shahaf [] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 15:12
Subject: Re: Gmane address encryption (was: Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?)

Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 14:55:15 -0700:
> Here's a mangled To: address that is obfuscated and defies my inbox
> rules.  Is this what you are talking about?  Can we turn that off?
> Can we get it to user our accurate list address?  It almost seems that
> our list is being BCCed.

FWIW, filtering list traffic by the list headers (eg, List-Id), or by
using a unique address to subscribe to the list and then filtering by
the BCC-delivered-to address, work around that.

I know not everyone uses these techniques.

>    From: Bjoern Michaelsen [mailto:redacted] 
>    Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 02:48
>    To:
>    Subject: Re: Improvement Program, Apache Migration and Privacy Policy
>  - Dennis 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Stahl [] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 14:28
> To:
> Subject: Gmane address encryption (was: Re: [What?] Why and How did this reach my inbox?)
> On 24.08.2011 22:39, Larry Gusaas wrote:
> > 
> > On 2011-08-24 11:42 AM  Michael Stahl wrote:
> >> On 23.08.2011 21:25, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> >>> How about the mangling of the To address?  When I get one of
> >>> these, I cannot use any rules because the To address that my mail
> >>> client sees is not that of ooo-dev but some hacked-up pseudo
> >>> gmane address.
> >> when signing up a mailing list at Gmane there is a checkbox whether
> >> the mail addresses (as seen by Gmane users) should be mangled or
> >> not; this feature is intended to prevent address harvesting and
> >> thus deter spammers.
> > Can that feature be changed? Is it necessary?
> it seems there is a form on the Gmane site where the list information
> can be edited, including the mangling (it is called "encryption").
> but before changing it we should ensure that posters on this list are
> not concerned about potentially getting more spam.
> (haven't checked whether any of the various other sites that archive
> this list expose the mail addresses to scraping by spammers)
> > None of the OOo or LibreOffice lists that I follow with Gmane have
> > mangled addresses. Nor do the other lists I follow.
> of the LO lists that i look at occasionally only the main development
> list seems to have the mangling enabled, the other ones not.
> regards,
>  michael

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