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From "Dennis E. Hamilton" <>
Subject RE: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at to Apache servers )
Date Sat, 06 Aug 2011 17:45:25 GMT
No, I don't believe the standalone use of the feather is appropriate yet.  The full footer
has the proper incubator symbol on the other end.

The adjusted figure with the gulls over Open seems fine, since it is part of the symbolic
recognition for  The asymmetry does not seem unpleasant.

I would like to see the full English language footer though, and we need to know what the
non-English forms are in English.  This may also be an inappropriate form for notices, or
else they may need to be dual-language.  We'll need help to figure out what the appropriate
formalities are for that, since there are legalities involved.

Finally, it is the case, at the moment, that the project is Apache (incubator).
 Do we have a timeline for the earliest we would expect to go live with this?  I'm concerned
that it locks us into having the Apache project core development and the site
identified in ways that are not differentiated.  It is not clear to me that we have resolved
this in the context of refactoring the brand (or not).  

Or is this limited, so far, to the pages found at and not

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Douglas Pitonyak [] 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 09:07
Subject: Re: Forums footer layout ( was : Migrating the web forums at
to Apache servers )

On 08/06/2011 11:50 AM, drew wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-08-06 at 17:41 +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:
>> Hi drew,
>> On Saturday, 2011-08-06 11:27:14 -0400, drew wrote:
>>> Ok - here is a possible footer
>> <nitpick>
>> The gulls should be above the Open, not Apache.
>> </nitpick>
> Howdy Eike
> ah, you noticed that did you.
> I can slide them back to the right, I thought it looked better with the
> change, but I'll go however the group wants.
> Here is an example with the gulls back in their original slot:
> (note that was from earlier and the word Apache is a tad too large in
> that graphic..but ok for comparative use here)
> //drew
Any chance you could add little micro "smiley faces" to the gulls :-)

Personally, I prefer the original. I assume, that you do not need to 
include the Apache feather (ashamed to admit I did not read Apache's 

I seem to remember more color in another version. I must be loosing my 

Andrew Pitonyak
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