Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FEA44D2E for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 01:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 76811 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2011 01:03:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76762 invoked by uid 500); 4 Jul 2011 01:03:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 76753 invoked by uid 99); 4 Jul 2011 01:03:34 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 01:03:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of rabastus@gmail.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 01:03:28 +0000 Received: by iym10 with SMTP id 10so4442470iym.6 for ; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:03:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JCjCqMRz/QDS0LiXZblwKTFlLrtpcwU5WTcFJOg9vY0=; b=CaFwrdCz2qQYJhsltjhwJw7iCYwwfcUmkby7MOpiRkkBsXTY9Sht+DNUWBekSXlNHz hqvulhvXk4EZT5Fs2HqcdWPPJVlNvhP25ji2eY+5kcc4lK/A32We4KaM5INCXFN801ce lrC+X4EcHap3IB7JyG37N8lFNEldFlQ9p74YU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.28.198 with SMTP id o6mr6052347icc.415.1309741386974; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: rabastus@gmail.com Received: by 10.42.247.193 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 18:03:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4F66DB94-E1C4-41F3-B2D8-163747C6767C@webmink.com> References: <1309381916.82460.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <00c701cc36ec$5dab9750$1902c5f0$@acm.org> <010001cc3741$51c88740$f55995c0$@acm.org> <00d001cc380f$98fec4c0$cafc4e40$@acm.org> <1309664343.19050.3.camel@rigel> <4F66DB94-E1C4-41F3-B2D8-163747C6767C@webmink.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 21:03:06 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hbBqNrXKGK0A5RDw05JrIw5JU-Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: OOO and LibreOffice. From: Rob Weir To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 3 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> But before we can >> get to that point we need to address the technical differences between >> the two code bases. LO is already 8 months or so adrift of OOo (or at >> least that is what I am led to believe). > > It's worth observing that the code that new developers will be able to wo= rk on at Apache is also likely to have significant differences from the las= t release from the Sun/Oracle infrastructure, as well as a completely diffe= rent workflow. I suspect we'll all have no choice but to accept there's a l= ot of refactoring and relearning to do whatever happens. > >> What happened to the plan for OOo and TDF people to get together? > > We attempted it here at FISL and had a good turnout to the sessions Jomar= Silva organised (and which I attended too). The result is a commitment (in= the form of a letter of intent signed by on behalf of the responsible mini= ster) by the Brazilian government to invest in both AOOo and LibreOffice. I= hope we'll have a news posting about it early in the week. > > It's tough, because there's a lot of emotion and history on both "sides",= but I agree with Jomar that it's possible to devise ways to work together.= One challenge we'll have with the new developers that Brazil will commit w= ill be getting engaged with the codebase. We think a great way for them to = do that now (rather than at an unknown point in the future) is to use the "= Easy Hacks" page that LibreOffice has put together to go start work on the = code now. > > I suggest we encourage others to do the same. =C2=A0Doing so is education= al and co-operative, and TDF are perfectly happy to accept contributions un= der the Apache license. > Simon, Any chance of TDF requiring Apache 2.0 for new code contributions, in addition to their current requirement for LGPL/MPL? My reading of their rules suggests that a simple majority of their Steering Committee authorize such a change. Doing so would open up many more possibilities for future collaboration and cooperation. Not doing so would severely constrain possibilities for cooperation. -Rob > S. > > > [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Easy_Hacks