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Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:01:16 -0400
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Subject: Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA
From: Rob Weir <apache@robweir.com>
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Raphael Bircher <r.bircher@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Am 05.07.11 19:12, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher<r.bircher@gmx.ch> =C2=A0=
wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to help move this discussion forward. =C2=A0I'm not perceivin=
g any
>>>> *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question. =C2=A0But I am
>>>> hearing several suggest that JIRA is a better tracker (custom
>>>> dashboards in particular were called out). =C2=A0Bugzilla got some nod=
s for
>>>> the ease of migration and the customization done to the OOo version.
>>>
>>> Let's wait a little bit longer. The OOo Bugzilla is adapted in same cas=
e
>>> to
>>> the project. First I'like to have a database dump and the used bugzilla
>>> templates. So we can find out the difference between normal Bugzilla an=
d
>>> the
>>> OOo Bugzilla. And If we realy want to mofe to JIRA then we should first
>>> evaluate the possible problem Areas.
>>>
>> Is this something that you are working on?
>>
>> Right now, I'm only exploring feasibility, what is possible. =C2=A0If we
>> find that migration to JIRA is feasible, then I'd propose going ahead
>> with it. =C2=A0But now I am exploring. =C2=A0But I think this is somethi=
ng that
>> we can do quickly. =C2=A0It is one of the easier areas to migrate.
>
> Yes, I working on this at the moment
>
>>> For my point of view it's not a good idea to setup now all tools. Else =
we
>>> will maybe run in the problem, that we can't import the old data.
>>>
>> Our notes crossed, but did you see the my idea of migrating first to a
>> clean, uncustomized Bugzilla, and then from there to JIRA?
>
> No, our Bugzilla is adapted cause the normal bugzilla does not cover all =
of
> our needs. So we have to look first if JIRA cover's all our needs. It's n=
ot
> a good Idea to make a desidation about a tool without know, what's our
> feature request. (Oh, this tool looks great, let's take this one)
>

Are these special needs documented someplace?


> Bugzilla to Bugzilla sould be not a problem, if we can take over the
> adaptions for the OOo Bugzilla
>

This will probably depend on the nature of the adaptions.  Is it just
UI?  Or does it have DB implications? Is there someone on the project
today who maintains the customizations, so, for example, they can be
updated when we update JIRA?  Or who can fix something if a browser
update breaks it?


> Bugzilla to JIRA.
>
> If we like to move to JIRA we should check the flowing first:
>
> * Cover JIRA all our Features wich we have in Bugzilla?

What is actually required versus what is "nice to have"?   I don't
think that we necessarily must have something identical to what was in
the previous OOo installation. I could be proven wrong, but that would
require at least some discussion of what Bugzilla does that is: 1) Not
doable in JIRA, 2) Cannot be added via customization in JIRA and 3) Is
actually necessary for the project.

> * Has JIRA the same or better performance?
> * How we migrate from Bugzilla to JIRA? Works the migrations tools fine e=
tc.
> Remember, migrations tools can easely fail, if a tool is adapted. Therefo=
r
> we have to test it first, and maybe we have to adapt it.
>

That's why I was suggesting that we migrate to vanilla, uncustomized
Bugzilla first.  That is more likely to migrate to JIRA without
problems.

> Greetings Raphael
> --
> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
>