Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EF24447D6 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 11:10:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 77979 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2011 11:10:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77797 invoked by uid 500); 7 Jul 2011 11:10:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 77789 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jul 2011 11:10:03 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:10:03 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.210.175] (HELO mail-iy0-f175.google.com) (209.85.210.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 11:09:58 +0000 Received: by iym10 with SMTP id 10so806516iym.6 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 04:09:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Nf7OoboqzZ0dnPdBROGAp5bbZKTG1pDFYfSlelcaaMc=; b=QBdBUovGN80OYFc6F4Lbfjuuif7Bv/ARQO1ogXmtDGCH5zxHPEm1jcobGqR+gyqsLE nC+Wk5AxsKUwM42rv9oe5WVhIEQEk/TaNATcHJ/B+tAtgs2YFlhY1eLZSDfis+pS9UfC 9e5M0JELVVMXGYXQiO3s0o2mHzpJY4VjcXovg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.133.194 with SMTP id i2mr718629ict.250.1310036977978; Thu, 07 Jul 2011 04:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.165.137 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2011 04:09:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [94.12.140.58] In-Reply-To: <4E14E6F1.8020700@oracle.com> References: <1309381916.82460.YahooMailClassic@web113503.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <00c701cc36ec$5dab9750$1902c5f0$@acm.org> <010001cc3741$51c88740$f55995c0$@acm.org> <00d001cc380f$98fec4c0$cafc4e40$@acm.org> <1309664343.19050.3.camel@rigel> <1309666612.2224.4397.camel@linux-krcc.site> <4E14E6F1.8020700@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 12:09:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OOO and LibreOffice. From: Ross Gardler To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 July 2011 23:51, Andrew Rist wrote: > > To date the LibreOffice crew has taken the effort to merge in changes fro= m > the OOo code line, for each release. > The most obvious and best way to collaborate in the future is to write go= od > code, and make it worth their while to integrate it into LO. > The more compelling the development effort at Apache, the more likely it = is > reused by LO. > This also leads to the situation where they have an interest in pushing > changes into the AOOo code line, to simplify their future merges. I agree 100% with this. My question, as someone who does not know the OOo code, is are there any obvious places in the code where this is likely to happen? A strong Apache project has the broadest possible community of users. Some of these users become contributors and some of those become committers. I wonder if there are any units of code that can be separately packaged in order to allow them to be included in downstream projects without "merging cnhanges" into a separate code tree? I'm a Java weenie, so I think in terms of JARs that can be reused easily. Is there any scope in the OOo project for similar library reuse? If so where is the low hanging fruit? Ross > > Andrew > > On 7/2/2011 9:16 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 23:39 -0400, Ted Rolle, Jr. wrote: >>> >>> Perhaps I'm jaded, but when you have data in two places, you can be sur= e >>> of one thing: =A0they're both wrong. >> >> Conversely, they are both right for their respective supporters and the >> reasons that each cite are also right, for each respective audience >> >>> I fear that the *Office camps will be in some sort of competition. >>> Competition means that there is a winner, and a loser. >> >> Not always true, if each iteration serves a unique market. =A0They can >> still be in competition for bragging rights but at the same time only >> competing for a common set of the market that is smaller than their main >> market, in this case I believe it will be Consumer on one hand (LO) and >> Enterprise on the other (OOo), IMO, MSO will be the big loser. >> >>> The good thing is that one will survive and become the de-facto >>> standard. >>> >>> Prove me wrong! >> >> I'm hoping we will, either way we live in interesting times > --=20 Ross Gardler (@rgardler) Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com