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Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 00:56:28 -0400
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Subject: RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All
From: Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com>
To: dennis.hamilton@acm.org
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Geezus. You are continuing to be obtuse. I have *no* idea what you're
talking about.
On Jul 29, 2011 9:21 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:
> Greg, your short reply was completely sufficient.
>
> It was all I needed and it answered the question that I asked.
>
> It was a little odd that you answered it where you did, but I got the
answer.
>
> The question was about a practice that I observed you following, not about
ALv2 nor the difference between work contributed to Apache and when
contributing work to a non-Apache project under an ALv2 license. The gist of
my note is about the apparent social dynamics of answers to unasked
questions. I've been noticing how often that happens on other dev lists I
follow and I was amused that it happened here with a question I asked.
>
> - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gstein@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 02:36
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All
>
> It seems there is some kind of subtext here, but it is so obtuse that I
have
> no idea what is going on.
>
> So: was my short reply useful, or not?
>
> And note that my reply was also given as an augment to Rob's link to
source
> header application.
>
> Dennis: be clear; *what* are you trying to say? I cannot read *any*
takeaway
> from below.
>
> -g
> On Jul 28, 2011 7:44 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> wrote:
>> There's a story, perhaps apocryphal (i.e., like the bicycle shed story),
> about Tom Watson approaching a Sr.VP for Human Resources in a hallway and
> asking how college students get summer jobs at IBM. The Sr.VP said he'd
get
> back to him.
>>
>> I will say no more. You might imagine how this went South when the only
> thing Watson wanted to know was to what to tell a neighbor whose son
wanted
> to apply for one of those jobs. The more experience you have in corporate
> life (and on some developer lists), you can imagine where this might have
> ended up instead. (Serious analysis and study, crash project, charts,
> slides, big conference room presentation, etc.)
>>
>> However, Greg answered my question in his first reply on this thread:
>>
>> "Right. Whenever possible."
>>
>> It is useful to learn about RAT and the committers tools, although it
> doesn't apply to my situation. My question was not about how to make the
> notice, it was about how Greg seemed to stamp it onto every textual
artifact
> he committed to SVN.
>>
>> Two lessons:
>> 1. I need to be careful about answering the (actual) question being
asked.
>> 2. When I ask questions, I need to be very clear what the question is
(and
> still risking that won't be the question answered).
>>
>> - Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shane Curcuru [mailto:asf@shanecurcuru.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 19:19
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Q: Notices in Code
>>
>> Apache RAT is in the incubator, and some projects use it to do source
>> code license checking and the like:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/rat/
>>
>> Note that the committers repository has two directories with other, much
>> simpler (but possibly useful) tools about checking or changing licenses
>> or other standard chunks of text in masses of source code:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers
>>
>> /relicense
>> and
>> /tools
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>

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