Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EE92661A for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2327 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2011 12:46:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 2282 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jul 2011 12:46:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 2274 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jul 2011 12:46:07 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:07 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of marcus.mail@wtnet.de designates 213.209.103.3 as permitted sender) Received: from [213.209.103.3] (HELO smtp1.wtnet.de) (213.209.103.3) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:46:01 +0000 X-WT-Originating-IP: 84.46.106.252 Received: from f9.linux (pop8-761.catv.wtnet.de [84.46.106.252]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp1.wtnet.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6NCjf7g018669 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:45:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4E2AC26D.1090701@wtnet.de> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:45:33 +0200 From: "Marcus (OOo)" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); de; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status References: <018b01cc481c$e46a5600$ad3f0200$@apache.org> <010801cc48af$8f1cfca0$ad56f5e0$@acm.org> <016201cc48fb$cd5d80b0$68188210$@acm.org> <4E2AA459.8010007@gmx-topmail.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think Christian is right. It's about to close the gate for being a *initial* committer. Not the *normal* committer status. And for this we have to define a deadline. My suggestion is still end of July or latestly end of August. When you have entered your name on the list on the beginning and haven't answered back until today (even not to say "sorry, I need a bit more time"), then IMHO it's time for a deadline. Marcus Am 07/23/2011 01:29 PM, schrieb Christian Lohmaier: > Hi Ingrid, *, > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:37 PM, IngridvdM wrote: >> >> I disagree with you in the opinion that the door needs to be closed some day >> and that people need to be sorted out. This can easily be felt to be very >> alienating, without any positive effect. > > I strongly disagree here. The door is not closed as written many times already. > >> Lets choose the example that an initial commiter signs up the iCLA only next >> year. The reasons are pointless. > > No, not at all, you cannot be an *INITIAL* committer if you're not > part of it from the very beginning. > >> The ones that have signed the iCLA can simply fully work already. Those >> who have not signed the iCLA can contribute via mail and the user wiki. > > Yes. But not as *initial* committers. > >> So lets not waste our time with processes to prevent something that is of no >> harm. > > It is doing harm. Having "fake" committers/supporters that only exist > on paper is doing big harm (in perception, reputation of the whole > project). > > ciao > Christian