Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C6654AD5 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14625 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2011 22:30:10 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14561 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2011 22:30:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14552 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2011 22:30:10 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:30:10 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: 98.139.44.139 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of kay.schenk@gmail.com) Received: from [98.139.44.139] (HELO nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com) (98.139.44.139) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with SMTP; Sun, 03 Jul 2011 22:30:01 +0000 Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2011 22:29:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.92] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2011 22:29:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2011 22:29:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 193677.74051.bm@omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 1589 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2011 22:29:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1309732180; bh=ajIo2gwFO2tgVWt8hLJY+sT8R/GmC+U4b0991KhgRaA=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KR3utBKDVy8Cwcf8EcnJqnNHVJXVxU23EwpcPcaAFBtMQwR9dG8MVMFMc/nALZCxJoa7VX67p7EsygPFE8FL4UxfXJ7SUqhB2XuzxV9gnlyI3KshJqvgKErRQ+8fhcD+JQyvnwspCG9xiz7qT4pJM2kjC/E9FCfuxZ+BfGVCFS0= Received: from [192.168.1.108] (kay.schenk@67.126.199.224 with plain) by smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jul 2011 15:29:39 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: dHt73eiswBAYjuZ6oL.TTjbe.KQkAIve X-YMail-OSG: jXfsnpMVM1lBpsiTu1_1UJdOamzSHtwe5DVVIIA88S_Fh1S ezqkGpNjovvngXA_NahDHFOJqPNcK.3Y6KB1nLsgrWtic65uC0P4YwFBT5d4 zwzh0IQ755ecTF2jLNyYiYF2Qhc8h_bCc1JTLUcr1iMlaX2DuBEaAct8dGZj xwZu3tLLcT2TokuIH42BAUCOOqZKGbqGIpRPKDwQKjXHATbJnIMgsqKZL0UD JLD3gCjHWy1j8YYwIkpAxVqhOhtb8iuSH4JsRA93WOzjPOT8je8pw0sMjH08 vGUw4szBHBcsZzzGiVWerfeDj5qY3p.kmZv5aSQD.nxMVGAEKWLSpXPDqh4T NkuKIweHv_mH8ApuhcHQENfQbNg6U0xvd_qJJMpQr X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4E10EC52.90104@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 2011 15:25:22 -0700 From: Kay Schenk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 SUSE/3.1.11 Thunderbird/3.1.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements References: <9B1C83A5-2E28-46BC-B62B-C16B76576308@comcast.net> <1309667350.2224.4410.camel@linux-krcc.site> <4E102ED1.70001@wtnet.de> In-Reply-To: <4E102ED1.70001@wtnet.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 07/03/2011 01:56 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/03/2011 07:43 AM, schrieb C: >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 06:29, Graham Lauder >> wrote: >>> On Sat, 2011-07-02 at 12:57 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: >>>> Some projects are huge and others small. I downloaded several: >>>> >>>> wave@minotaur:~/ooo-test$ ls -1 >>>> development >>>> documentation >>>> download >>>> projects >>>> www >>>> >>>> The size is 2.7GB. >>>> >>>> It would be good to come up with a scripted way to convert existing >>>> webcontent to either mdtext, an altered html, or specialized >>>> javascript and css. It is likely we can adapt the content and use >>>> the Apache CMS to wrap a standard skeleton. >>>> >>>> Regards, Dave >>>> >>> >>> >>> Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously >>> pruned. For instance all the old Marketing material that is V2.0 and >>> earlier could be deleted. >>> >>> Argument could be made for the marketing material to start from scratch. >>> Personally I'd like to see a whole new branding and get shot of the old >>> stuff, make the first Apache release: V4.0 (Historically, significant >>> global change has meant a whole number change in the version: V2 new >>> codebase, V3 Apple compatibility. I think this is significant enough: >>> pre V4 = LGPL license, V4 and later = ALV2) From a marketing POV it >>> gives us a handle to hang a campaign on. >> >> The majority of the documentation project content is not really stored >> in the stuff that was downloaded in this test. What you find in the >> web-content side is pretty much just pointers to the Wiki plus a few >> files here and there that are not in the Wiki. >> >> I would much more prefer that when the time comes to migrate content >> of the documentation directory, that I simply tag which files are to >> be transferred and the rest are pruned. I have spent time cleaning up >> what's there, but there are still 10 years of legacy things still >> laying about, not used anymore.... stuff that should not be copied >> over. > > I know that many things are simply outdated and could be deleted easily > without loosing value. However, when we grab the content from the Oracle > server, look into the content, and then decide if to take over and > publish or modify or delete, then we we have much to do and a longer > time no real content on our websites. > > So, I would prefer to take over all content and make it public *) . Then > we can go through the content and add/modify/delete/whatever part-by-part. yes! exactly...investigating ALL this now will take WAY too long. > > *) After the license problems are solved. > > My 2 ct > > Marcus -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MzK "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and I'll just start over kind of attitude." -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose