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From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
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Subject: Committers and Contributors and PPMC
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 11:59:37 -0700
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It is important to distinguish between contributors generally and the =
subset of contributors who happen to be committers.  There are technical =
prerequisites and prerogatives to being a committer.
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Many people have been contributors to OpenOffice.org when it was under =
the stewardship of Sun and Oracle.  Many of those individuals, and =
others, are contributing here via the ooo-dev list, the community wiki, =
and even submission of patches.  Contribution of code and patches and =
bug reports is currently rather limited until the code base has moved =
and there is an issue tracker in place.  There is opportunity for =
extensive contribution of all kinds.

All contributions matter and a lively contributor community is critical. =
 The committers simply have more they can do with regard to making =
changes directly rather than submitting them to a committer for review =
and acceptance.

Not all committers are on the PPMC (and, although rare in practice, not =
all PPMC members need be committers).  The Initial Committers are also =
invited to be PPMC members and it is their option to join or not.  =
Ordinarily, invitation of a committer to join the PPMC is done =
separately. =20

The PPMC deals with private matters (e.g., the invitation of committers =
and PPMC members) and security issues that require discretion and =
secrecy leading up to resolution. =20

It is my impression (based on no experience at all) that when issues =
come to a vote on the ooo-dev list, PPMC member votes are binding and =
the votes of other project contributors and observers are not, although =
I am confident that non-binding votes are given careful attention.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: eric b [mailto:eric.bachard@free.fr]=20
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 10:12
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Commiters list

Hi,


Le 14 juil. 11 =C3=A0 18:50, Frank Peters a =C3=A9crit :

> Eric,
>
>> On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/=20
>> openofficeorg.html ,
>> there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator
>> project, and I thought I was counted in the list.
>
> are you a committer (i.e. do you have commit rights)?
>


I'm listed on the incubator wiki page : http://wiki.apache.org/=20
incubator/OpenOfficeProposal

As "Initial Commiter"


>> Did I miss something ? How to be added in the list ?
>
> Become a committer. I think you will need to be invited by the PPMC.


I'm not sure to understand the "not invited".  As reminder, I'm =20
OpenOffice.org developer since 2005, and did a lot for OpenOffice.org.

I really wonder what happens.


> But for that, you will need to sign a CLA which you do not want to =20
> do as you stated earlier.
>

In the current list, not everybody signed the ICLA, so why is it =20
important ?


Regards,
Eric Bachard


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