Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EC7C7CE0 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 47820 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2011 20:40:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47787 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jul 2011 20:40:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 47779 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2011 20:40:28 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:40:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:40:18 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QkMVp-0007ty-2M; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 16:39:57 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: Cc: "'Juan C. Sanz'" , "'Juan C. Sanz'" , "'Marcus $OOo$'" , "'Stephan Bergmann'" References: <018b01cc481c$e46a5600$ad3f0200$@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org Initial Committer Status Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:40:12 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <010801cc48af$8f1cfca0$ad56f5e0$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEZI36UsdFoXZ4GLAVv5d8EwpJsNgJDJ8Yslkz2ubA= Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I did not include a time limit, because we had not agreed on one. = Instead, I made the request to indicate whether they intended to submit = an iCLA and how much time they would need (for whatever review reasons = or other determinations involved). These Initial Committers were already sent a bulk e-mail on June 23. Why would we not expect the Initial Committers who signed up by June 10 = to report whether they intend to actually become committers? It is = about their commitment, it seems to me. And they always have the = opportunity to become committers by showing up and contributing, the = same as for anyone who is not an Initial Committer. My thought was to wait 15-30 days after we approach all of them = individually and then send a follow-up to ones who have not responded at = all indicating that the invitation to become committers and PPMC members = is being withdrawn. (Assuming we decide to do that and set such a = date.) I would make the changes that Stephen Bergmann recommended. More feedback and discussion, please. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Juan C. Sanz [mailto:juancsanzc@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:28 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] : Apache OpenOffice.org = Initial Committer Status El 22/07/2011 5:10, Dennis E. Hamilton escribi=C3=B3: > There are 20 Initial Committers on the OpenOffice.org incubator = proposal who have not yet submitted iCLAs or informed us of their = intention not to do so. > > Today I used the following format for a message to one of those = Initial Committers. > > Before 19 more of these are sent out I wanted to check how = understandable this is. > > I am particularly concerned for how clear this is for those who are = not native English speakers. > > I welcome your advice. > > - Dennis > > *** specimen message *** > > From: > Sent: > To: > Cc: ooo-private@incubator.apache.org > Subject:: Apache OpenOffice.org Initial = Committer Status > > Hello, > > You are listed as an Initial Committer on the proposal for the Apache = OpenOffice.org incubator project. > > The incubator project was accepted by Apache on 2011-06-13. > > As an Initial Committer you are invited to be established as a = committer on the Apache OpenOffice.org incubator podling. You are also = invited to serve on the Podling Project Management Committee after you = are established as a committer. > > The prerequisite to becoming established as a committer is to register = an iCLA agreement with Apache. > > Our records indicate that no iCLA has been received from you. > > If you do not choose to submit an iCLA, please report your decision = to. We will then know not wait for = it. > > If you are submitting an iCLA, please report your decision to = ooo-private@incubator.apache.org and indicate how much time you need = before the iCLA will be sent to Apache. > > For more information and iCLA/CCLA forms, go = to. Complete instructions for = submission of an iCLA is at the top of the form (text or PDF). > > We welcome your contribution to the Apache OpenOffice.org incubator = project. > > - the Apache OpenOffice.org incubator Podling Project Management = Committee (PPMC) > > *** end of specimen message *** > I think it's understundandable. But, what is the next step? how long do=20 we wait for the user id? Regards. Juan C. Sanz