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From Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net>
Subject Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)
Date Wed, 13 Jul 2011 01:25:31 GMT

On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Danese Cooper wrote:

> To recap...I think this might be a slightly different situation than Apache
> has previously experienced and it might be worth having the ASF Trademark
> watchdogs and ASF lawyers talk through the pros and cons of what's possible
> / advisable to do in this special case.  That conversation could impact /
> inform the naming strategy for various parts of the project and I think it
> should happen soon.

Yes, please.

Should the discussion also include the issue of whether it is permissible to host extensions
and templates with all kinds of licenses on an http://*.openoffice.org domain? It happens
now.

Best Regards,
Dave


> 
> D
> 
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, exactly!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12 Jul 2011, at 15:38, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:03 AM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12 Jul 2011, at 13:32, Kai Ahrens wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course it makes a difference to ask our users instead
of asking
>> some
>>>>>>>> deeply involved people on this list, having very subjective
>> interests in
>>>>>>>> one or the other direction.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And in the end, the user rules, not any marketing speech.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While that sounds good, I'm not sure it's the Apache way and
I'd
>> welcome a comment from one of the mentors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> See Daneese Cooper's emails.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you have a specific one in mind? Naturally I read everything Danese
>> writes, but so far I have not seen her comment on the issue of whether and
>> how market research over-rides the interests of Apache members.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, I am out of pocket and this thread is so long. Basically she is
>> talking about consulting one of the ASF's attorney's regarding the names and
>> brand dilution issues from a legal standpoint.
>>> 
>>> You are likely referring to this post then:
>>> 
>>> http://s.apache.org/UxA
>>> 
>>>> I hadn't gotten to market research. I'm focused on migration and the
>> websites - all names are possible right now and in the future. I don't want
>> to tie the branding too tightly in the web design. The Apache CMS will allow
>> us to isolate these elements.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>> 
>>> - Sam Ruby
>> 


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