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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: OOo Trademark
Date Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:33:40 GMT
Am 07/21/2011 03:16 AM, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
> Thanks for the info. Note that it would be helpful if people interested
> in working with trademarks read the Apache policies, as well as our
> growing list of FAQs:
> Part of my strategy is to attempt to cover as many of the basic kinds of
> uses with generic documentation, and to try to limit the number of
> explicit agreements or specific grants that we give to third parties.
> I.e. if we can clearly state in a policy that using our marks in manner
> X is generally permissible, without having to fillin a webform or email
> for written permission, it makes our life much, much simpler. There are
> plenty of uses of trademarks that don't require any permissions and are
> not infringing - otherwise, how could I order a Coke (or a Pepsi) to drink?
> For things like journalists writing an article about Apache products, or
> individuals with personal blogs who just want to link to the download
> page for a product - I'd like to be able to point to a policy or FAQ
> that notes if they do it appropriately, no explicit permission is required.
> Obviously with the userbase and reach of, we need to
> consider how to manage the kinds of requests and the load of requests
> going forward, now that we're becoming Apache OpenOffice.

Is there already a list that names simple requests that doesn't need a 
permission? We could create a new webpage on the Wiki or homepage as "I 
want to use your trademark. What to do?" section.


> On 7/20/2011 9:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>> Am 20.07.2011 03:57, schrieb Shane Curcuru:
>> [...]
>>> Andrew (or whoever): how/when can we get the submissions to that
>>> webform?
>> I've contacted the person who I think was responsible before.
>>> I'm actually wondering if and how we should review those, versus simply
>>> asking people to start contacting ooo-dev@ about requests from the
>>> Apache side.
>> That might depend on the number of requests that have accumulated in
>> recent weeks.
>>> In particular, with the transfer of the OOo marks, how do we (as in,
>>> this PPMC and trademarks@) handle any permissions or licensing of
>>> ""? Especially since that mark primarily refers to a
>>> product that we - the ASF - do not actually distribute?
>> Many of these request are sent by journalists (e.g. providing OOo as
>> part of an open source DVD as magazine add) and authors (e.g. screen
>> shots for a publication). Another large group are individual open source
>> enthusiasts who just want to put the OOo logo on their website to link
>> the download page. IMHO, it would be easiest to point everyone on this
>> list, let them briefly summarize their concern and then giving them a
>> preliminary permission. Next, they can send us the results of using the
>> OOo logo or trademark, so we can make a final decisions while having the
>> real context available.
>> best regards,
>> peter
>>> - Shane
>>> On 7/19/2011 12:51 PM, Andrew Rist wrote:
>>>> On 7/18/2011 10:37 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I'm still getting requests now and again from persons who want to use
>>>>> the trademark for various reasons. In former times I
>>>>> have been pointing them to a web form that Oracle was providing. So,
>>>>> my questions are:
>>>>> - Is the OOo trademark already with Apache?
>>>> Oracle legal is currently working with ASF on the transfer.
>>>>> - If yes, I recall I have to forward them to,
>>>>> right?
>>>>> - If not, is Oracle still taking on such requests?
>>>> All of these types of requests are on hold at Oracle. The process
>>>> should
>>>> be moved over to Apache.
>>>>> + Do requesters still have to use the web form?
>>>>> Or, is there any interims process?
>>>> Not at this time - and - this should make it over to the Apache side of
>>>> things in reasonably short order.
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Peter

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