Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2118866B1 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 79019 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2011 21:42:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78969 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2011 21:42:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 78961 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jun 2011 21:42:16 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:42:16 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of acolorado@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.43] (HELO mail-ww0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:42:12 +0000 Received: by wwg12 with SMTP id 12so2605872wwg.0 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:41:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DuJl4u33fojQozwZDK+WhWfxN2RaRfDvuark408at28=; b=OPMLZkwvCAsX1oqJIXGFBnsHHLrRQT5AK85Hr2bxHYSDr1J7BgUNchuA/refAe9xKk gYIdJU/FVGjDhMDVWo8p/dP219XYEE5NbfZ4ljZ58dAHiOu/Ve3ol1OQQl/EeaYCzKwR AxA3DEpRaSWbiaWZJwCImlRzkf/NgJ4QZpbwA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=d01FIdvEtOmgql+Vopd5LOnjJYafAdy7wtzTUvBxlSHKusAU9UR0nW0FSMEA3yN1oI UuQRw4IliDu83KQGFsOXzo8F/X4N8GASEg9Mhd/pl73YkSY/2jmkZKbxSp+O16kZ4g2V 1NCb6dzsuEdGb1Re+MzhpH5SLqoNWVyw34ze8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.14.214 with SMTP id d64mr5492564wed.17.1308606110904; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: acolorado@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.168.17 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:41:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <007d01cc2ea4$66beb430$343c1c90$@acm.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 16:41:50 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JuxmCz8WSwGznIEf6aI62Ra_Oqw Message-ID: Subject: Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too From: Alexandro Colorado To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f1db5464319f04a62b9a75 --001485f1db5464319f04a62b9a75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding > service with how Apache projects work. > > Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is > representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the > project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and > externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then > that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple > hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers > might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is > not the typical case. > > And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email > address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an > OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin > addresses. > > So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding. > > The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the > question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address > means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such > an address? That seems to duplicate the kinds of questions we already > deal with when we look at those individuals whose contributions to the > project merit being voted in as Committers, and getting an a.o email > address. > > -Rob > > > [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats > > > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: > > I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with. > > > > Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, > there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation. > > > > Is there anything in place to sustain that? > > > > Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point? > > (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.= ) > > > > - Dennis > > > > > The email is open to anyone signed in the OOo domain in collabnet. I will support the idea to keep it that way. There is no distinction on what level of commitment you have to the project. In practice, not many people use the OOo domain. I did and even as an active user, very few times I have been inquired on how to use it by fellow project members. So my idea Rob is, lets keep it like this without giving it too much overthought of abuse or anything. If there was ill intend it would have bee= n spoted through the 10 years of OOo history. BTW the ES project actually use several @openoffice.org accounts for different initiatives through it. It has never really been an issue. --=20 *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Espa=C3=B1ol http://es.openoffice.org --001485f1db5464319f04a62b9a75--