Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D3B37631B for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 81838 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 10:42:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81804 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 10:42:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81793 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2011 10:42:49 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:42:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [209.85.214.47] (HELO mail-bw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.214.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:42:43 +0000 Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so1370727bwz.6 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.36.206 with SMTP id u14mr541148bkd.4.1308220942485; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.121.201 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DF7D090.5090000@lippka.com> <4DF7DD84.3060400@googlemail.com> <4DF7E46D.6030303@gmx.ch> <4DF8E917.2060302@gmail.com> <4DF8FF06.1030805@gmail.com> <4DF903E0.1050908@apache.org> <4DF906B3.9010302@apache.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 11:42:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: decision making (wsa Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module) From: Steve Lee To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 15 June 2011 20:39, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >> >> On reading that back I realise it's a horrible explanation, so I just >> changed it to: >> >> "Sometimes a member of the community will believe a specific action is the >> correct one for the project but are not sure that there will be consensus. >> In these circumstances they may not wish to proceed with the work without >> giving the community an opportunity to feedback. In these circumstances they >> can make the proposal and state Lazy Consensus is in operation." > > Meta observation: this change did not require board level approval, no > vote was taken, and in fact as far as I know Ross didn't ask anybody's > permission; he just saw something that needed to be fixed and did it. > We have lots of checks and balances built in: notifications get sent > out on the changes, the source itself is under version control, etc. Meta comment - I notice Ross also posted to the list that he had done so - 'if it didn't happen on the list. It didn't happen'. Thus I see there's a chance to respond before the 'checks and balances' kick in. Steve Lee