Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A46766E68 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1705 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2011 21:50:38 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1668 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jun 2011 21:50:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 1660 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jun 2011 21:50:38 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:50:38 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of andy@the-martin-byrd.net designates 204.16.46.7 as permitted sender) Received: from [204.16.46.7] (HELO smtpscan-6.userservices.net) (204.16.46.7) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 21:50:32 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtpscan-6.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372AD4F20620 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: virus free Received: from smtpscan-6.userservices.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtpscan-6.userservices.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10099) with LMTP id GoNjINXvp9ro for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hosting5.userservices.net (hosting5.userservices.net [207.109.251.80]) by smtpscan-6.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8284F2059A for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.15] (ip72-199-161-23.sd.sd.cox.net [72.199.161.23]) by hosting5.userservices.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECF51910082 for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4DFFC090.1030101@the-martin-byrd.net> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 14:50:08 -0700 From: Andy Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110516 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Oh, let's not forget @openoffice.org too References: <007d01cc2ea4$66beb430$343c1c90$@acm.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'm having difficulty reconciling the openoffice.org email forwarding >> service with how Apache projects work. >> >> Having such an address appears to suggest that the person is >> representing the project,or at the very least is a member of the >> project. But we speak as individuals, both in the project and >> externally. If we're suggesting that we represent the project, then >> that is incorrect. There are exceptions, as outlined in the "multiple >> hats" description [1] , where a PMC Chair or other Apache officers >> might need to speak authoritatively on policy matters. But that is >> not the typical case. >> >> And remember, committers are given email forwards via an a.o email >> address. So there is no functional requirement that I can see for an >> OOo address, other than the conventional postmaster and admin >> addresses. >> >> So I'd favor ending the OOo email forwarding. >> >> The alternative would be to continue this service, but that begs the >> question of who is permitted such an address, what such an address >> means, who decides and what criteria are used to decide who gets such >> an address? That seems to duplicate the kinds of questions we already >> deal with when we look at those individuals whose contributions to the >> project merit being voted in as Committers, and getting an a.o email >> address. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#hats >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton >> wrote: >>> I am not certain this is identified as something to deal with. >>> >>> Along with the openoffice.org domain and whatever happens with that, >> there is also the openoffice.org affinity e-mail forwarding operation. >>> >>> Is there anything in place to sustain that? >>> >>> Might it be interrupted or even retired at some point? >>> (Not proposing, just want to ensure that someone has their eye on this.) >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >>> >> > > The email is open to anyone signed in the OOo domain in collabnet. I will > support the idea to keep it that way. There is no distinction on what level > of commitment you have to the project. In practice, not many people use the > OOo domain. I did and even as an active user, very few times I have been > inquired on how to use it by fellow project members. > > So my idea Rob is, lets keep it like this without giving it too much > overthought of abuse or anything. If there was ill intend it would have been > spoted through the 10 years of OOo history. > > BTW the ES project actually use several @openoffice.org accounts for > different initiatives through it. It has never really been an issue. > I can see keeping what is there but it should be locked so no new address are allowed. Over time then it could be removed. My 2 cents. Andy