Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CAB36B08 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14999 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 21:34:32 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14966 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 21:34:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 14958 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2011 21:34:32 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:34:32 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [148.87.113.121] (HELO rcsinet10.oracle.com) (148.87.113.121) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:34:22 +0000 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id p5GLXxCK010518 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:34:01 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p5GLXxo4024815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:33:59 GMT Received: from abhmt019.oracle.com (abhmt019.oracle.com [141.146.116.28]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p5GLXslp018789 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 16:33:54 -0500 Received: from [130.35.70.39] (/130.35.70.39) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:33:53 -0700 Message-ID: <4DFA76B9.7010103@oracle.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:33:45 -0700 From: Andrew Rist User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 OracleBeehiveExtension/1.0.0.2-OracleInternal ObetStats/CATUAF_1292349144501-582467479 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: External dependencies (was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module) References: <4DF7D090.5090000@lippka.com> <4DF7D79D.9020106@gmx.net> <4DF7DA4C.6080007@gmx.ch> <1308091258.3010.26.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4DF7E7A8.4090901@ahrens-netz.de> <4DF87460.4010802@gmx.net> <460ddaf3effcbe50956e5843081688c8@tutopia.com> <4DFA2C23.9040601@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <4DFA2C23.9040601@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090203.4DFA76C9.004E:SCFMA922111,ss=1,fgs=0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 6/16/2011 9:15 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 16.06.2011 16:45, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Greg Stein wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:09, Pedro Giffuni >>> wrote: >>>> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:59:12 +0200, Mathias >>>> Bauer >>>> ... >>>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was that nowhere in the >>>>> code repository we can have code that links against LGPL code. And of >>>>> course extensions are part of our code base also. >>> >>> The repository can contain code that is licensed with a permissive >>> license (ALv2, MIT, BSD). Of course, we try to have only "our" code, >>> but over in httpd is a copy of PCRE, and APR has a copy of Expat. >>> Stuff that is not "our" code must be listed in the NOTICE file. >>> >>> We cannot have any code in the repository that has a reciprocal >>> license. >>> >> >> Could you clarify one thing for me, please? >> >> I thought we could take the Oracle code as-is, and check it in, verify >> that it is complete and builds, but that we would then be required to >> resolve the license issues before could have a release or graduate. >> Is that incorrect? Are we required to resolve these issues before we >> even accept the SGA'ed code? It makes it difficult to collaborate on >> resolving these issues if we cannot get the initial code into SVN. >> >> -Rob >> > > The Oracle code as-is will not be sufficient to build anything. > The initial list of files from Oracle misses several thousand files > (e.g. nearly the complete build system files) because these files > don't have copyright headers in them. To the best of my knowledge, > they are under Oracle's copyright, but it's not up to me to decide on > that. > > People are working on that, but we obviously have to wait. Let's use > the time to go through all files where the copyright situation is > unclear or where we already know that the copyright holder is someone > else (I have posted a first list already). > > Regards, > Mathias > I think this is a misunderstanding of "the Oracle code". I think Rob is talking about the entire contents of the OOo source control, where Mathias is thinking of the files in the SGA. So the questions are: - Is there anything in the Apache process that stops us from pulling in the entire source control from OOo? - Will that set of files enable us to build OOo (across platforms, etc.)? - Is that the best starting place for beginning the code remediation, like removing bits that cannot be relicensed, or are not license compatible? Andrew