Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C7D16038 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32096 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 13:04:17 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32048 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 13:04:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 32017 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2011 13:04:17 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:17 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [129.67.1.161] (HELO relay0.mail.ox.ac.uk) (129.67.1.161) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:04:07 +0000 Received: from smtp1.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.207]) by relay0.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1QXCEd-00067Y-0z for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:03:47 +0100 Received: from dhcp29.oucs.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.103.29]) by smtp1.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QXCEd-0007YW-3y for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:03:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4DF9FF57.5090900@apache.org> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 14:04:23 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Teams and Leads References: <4DF9BCA5.6040609@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> <4DF9D086.5050302@rechtsanwalt-stehmann.de> <4DF9DF24.5070603@gmx-topmail.de> <4DF9F79D.7000302@apache.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Oxford-Username: oucs0040 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 16/06/2011 13:49, Ian Lynch wrote: > But presumably if we want broader community support this list is the place > to get it? I will talk to the trademark committee but I feel happier if this > is as public as possible. Ahhh... I see what you were "testing" in your original email. I thought you were testing whether there were sufficient contact points if ooo-dev was not felt to be appropriate. I see now you were testing if this list could give you an answer. Let me try and answer again. The OO.o PMC is expected to police any trademarks associated with the project. THe trademarks committee is there to help the PMC interpret the policy and, if necessary, to enforce it on behalf of the PMC. So in my original reply rather than saying "if you were confident that your use conformed to the ASF policy" I should have said, "if the PMC is confident that your use conforms to the ASF policy they can say so, if not they can ask advice of trademarks". However, the PMC doesn't give permission, the trademarks committee does. So if you (as requestor) want formal permission the PMC would have to ask the trademarks committee to do so. Sam has effectively done that in his reply to this thread that was copied to the trademarks PMC. Trademarks will assess the situation and respond via both the trademarks and this list. Ross > > The trademarks committee will either grant or refuse permission (usually >> after consulting with the OO.o PMC). >> >> Ross >> >> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ >> >> -- >> rgardler@apache.org >> @rgardler >> > > > -- rgardler@apache.org @rgardler