Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D0C276D82 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:47:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15162 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 05:47:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15052 invoked by uid 500); 16 Jun 2011 05:47:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 15044 invoked by uid 99); 16 Jun 2011 05:47:27 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:47:27 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jeanweber@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.214.175] (HELO mail-iw0-f175.google.com) (209.85.214.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 05:47:21 +0000 Received: by iwn19 with SMTP id 19so969818iwn.6 for ; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id :mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g5vwsCbQ8qIbejNpcPzIyPTGe4+CyE44x9YhvUZKVfQ=; b=IviGtqEWkqAEnPr0BGQzMHPw0nuLwD0TrbWKf/eLI+ILO3KmbzaH6XRreRvHjxGbv1 MTTnvPNnh2J8Tue5om7HLJjsTCO1EsO2TXT9r33+SuZC3lv9Azx100ToE1uoGHci1tKM sP3jAhXEoxF4c2DcRM/OtfC+CrMPkw7iE2VWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer :content-transfer-encoding; b=tJ6JcM5F+L/R1HRGzxOD/Vi4BG838Y3sT5EHOXqapWijm/3lPsLD84Y3ccu1IIXlr0 08XiyxfrmVxvScacV8ezpi/714qIxDZURYAxG0TCaG7dAMZIZLh6uGT6lEAyzTsbuZwm u3RARBmi0z3N6wFs6xmyCdaFLdVydGsFanSek= Received: by 10.231.208.142 with SMTP id gc14mr445107ibb.115.1308203220831; Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.2] (124-150-99-124.dyn.iinet.net.au [124.150.99.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f13sm137119ibe.44.2011.06.15.22.46.58 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 15 Jun 2011 22:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Proposed short term goals From: Jean Hollis Weber To: ApacheOOo Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:46:54 +1000 Message-ID: <1308203214.2325.155.camel@jean-laptop15> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Monday, 13 June 2011, Rob Weir wrote, > As I understood it, Oracle was going to give the domain name, as well > as the trademark, to Apache. But this was not part of the SGA. > > As for what happens to it, the proposal, which was just approved, > suggested taking the contents of the current, Oracle-hosted website > and dividing it into two chunks: > > 1) The pieces that are project-oriented, i.e., the parts that are used > to coordinate the development of the releases, would be mapped to > their equivalents in the Apache project infrastructure. Since these > tend to be accessed only by those who are working on the code, a > relatively small number of people (<500), we don't have the issue of > breaking large numbers of external URLs. > > 2) The pieces that are directly user-facing, e.g., the user support > formulas, the releases, the tutorials, the FAQ's, etc., would be > preserved, at the URL level, if possible (via redirects as needed), on > a new OpenOffice.org website. Since the user facing content has many > thousands of third party links to it, it is important that this be > preserved, if at all possible. > > In other words, I think the developers on this project, we can take > some disruption as things move around and find new homes. But we can > not assume the same of the users, and especially the fragility of the > network of links incoming to OpenOffice.org. If we can transition the > user-facing services on the website without a hiccup, that would be > perfect. I totally agree, and I think maintaining the user-facing services with little or no disruption is essential. Some of those services seriously need to be improved, updated, rationalised, and so on, but that's a separate exercise and can be done later. Planning now is good (see separate note). The documentation area in particular is in need of improvement, and I'll have a lot to say about that later. --Jean