Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F5DC4B53 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:56:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25311 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jun 2011 00:56:40 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25275 invoked by uid 500); 18 Jun 2011 00:56:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 25267 invoked by uid 99); 18 Jun 2011 00:56:39 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:56:39 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS,URIBL_RHS_DOB X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dennis.hamilton@acm.org designates 75.98.160.130 as permitted sender) Received: from [75.98.160.130] (HELO a2s15.a2hosting.com) (75.98.160.130) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:56:33 +0000 Received: from 63-226-210-225.tukw.qwest.net ([63.226.210.225] helo=Astraendo) by a2s15.a2hosting.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QXjpb-000213-TJ for ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:56:12 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Dennis E. Hamilton" To: References: <4DFA8B06.5030506@the-martin-byrd.net> <4DFBE460.3090303@the-martin-byrd.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: User facing web items Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:56:17 -0700 Organization: NuovoDoc Message-ID: <00f201cc2d52$88d1f0d0$9a75d270$@acm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKftRgGvaAAL16SyxJlvkSd4Pq9eQItyv8nAf7qI/MBkWU1PpLtRRGg Content-Language: en-us X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - a2s15.a2hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - incubator.apache.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - acm.org X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Wow, Stack Overflow. Interesting. =20 Not sure how it would work for (power) users in the case of OOo, but = definitely something to think about. I'd vote for same as, but don't = know if that's workable. A lot depends on how well search can be made to work so users can find = existing threads on their topic without much pain. - Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgardler@opendirective.com]=20 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 16:50 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: User facing web items On 18 June 2011 00:33, Andy Brown wrote: > "Is a forum the right solution today", good > question but I have seen flame wars break out over that very topic in = some > mailing list. I prefer mailing list but understand why end users = prefer a > forum so I would support us keeping it. :-) Recently there were discussions in the ASF about using something like (or the same as) StackOverflow. for this kind of support. Today I read that the recent Eclipse Community Survey had found that StackOverflow was extremely important (being more important than their internal support forums). You are right to avoid the flame war, but at the same time now might be a really good time to consider alternative user support mechanisms since if you want to host this in the ASF it will require infra to support some new tool anyway. As you've already heard infra don't take that kind of responsibility on lightly and it might be possible to get more projects to pitch in to help infra if a "more modern approach to user support were adopted. Of course, it would make sense to get a dump of the contents of those forums (licence permitting) anyway and that should really be the initial focus. Ross --=20 Ross Gardler Programme Leader (Open Development) OpenDirective http://opendirective.com