From ooo-dev-return-164-apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Tue Jun 14 23:10:41 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE6CF60B5 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 40100 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2011 23:10:41 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40063 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jun 2011 23:10:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 40055 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jun 2011 23:10:41 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:10:41 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,RFC_ABUSE_POST,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gstein@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:10:36 +0000 Received: by vws2 with SMTP id 2so5499069vws.6 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:10:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=io36WXB1WcVOFN7KQmTEHSIFHoCjYlIN/4dr53lhA+k=; b=x6Kpb/zzAkdW8h1Go0UgxeuMo1rs3Tz8iogTzfSZFNu1sW6ZpZiVAYZUgQlfiHTdTH dqNPlhOeJxO+e9UrQuJEfy1JeOQv/WwGLyRIQO+OFHrOIvzYdYsDbqJXhMGZ9naSrlZm xf9Rk5eRr2g7wgYfXg7D+/TdSRuBkbchgUOPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sij7eTeOxlU3c2DA3bzoUnOocIUuX8IXXPYv0ecY8XhJNIQzneK/gsmxkb8BXtHxwz nLzjAR+UmTS2BNwh/TBZu2KvnlbchXHGOxFNw+YE4XqlOZQKlC+BBSa2vfzVLEDZl18S rVqJ11tzug8g6qUILqbLV4SsedjGu6JH73R5o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.32.35 with SMTP id f3mr167834vdi.267.1308093015742; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.162.201 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:10:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4DF77E0A.9030006@gmx.net> <4DF78D74.1070306@gmx.net> <4DF7C4DC.5060406@apache.org> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:10:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals) From: Greg Stein To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 18:51, Simon Phipps wrote: >... >> It is not a question of benefit of the doubt. =A0Anybody who wants to >> make a difference is welcome to participate. =A0The operative word, >> however, is "participate". > > Help me understand here, Sam. Are you asserting that you do not consider = the > contributions I have made so far in the Incubator to be "participation"? To take a guess, I believe Sam is saying "if you'd like to sign onto infrastructure-dev and help to make it happen, then great." In other words, don't just make a proposal, but roll up your sleeves to make it work. Now... it sounds like you *did* roll up your sleeves and talked to TDF folks about infrastructure capability over there, but (unfortunately) that plan isn't workable. As the "suggested plan" discussion morphed towards "Git at ASF", it didn't seem you were moving towards solving (say) LDAP and Git integration :-P ... thus we end up with you and Sam talking past each other. Cheers, -g