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From Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Subject Re: Subversion & Git (was: Proposed short term goals)
Date Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:45:29 GMT
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Ross Gardler <rgardler@apache.org> wrote:
> On 14/06/2011 18:18, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
>>>> My main reason for being here is to have "a foot in both camps" and make
>>>> sure that there's someone to bring in TDF people whenever there's scope
>>> to
>>>> collaborate and draw the overall OOo community together.
>>>
>>> I'll simply note that those people with a "foot" here are those that
>>> are actually doing the work.
>>
>> Respectfully, that's an unhelpful statement.
>
> I agree.
>
> Simon is trying to help us build bridges to the TDF. Inevitably this is
> going to be clumsy to start with and it will often seem that we, the ASF are
> being asked to compromise in ways we find impossible or unacceptable.
> However, we should recognise that part of "doing the work" at this stage is
> trying to build those bridges.

Whether I said it poorly or not, any statement along the lines of
"some group needs this" without providing the resources to make it
happen is not going to make it happen.  That statement is true no
matter what the group is, including groups that are *within* the ASF.

> Lets give Simon the benefit of the doubt for now, lets assume Simon will
> back down on suggestions that don't fit well for good reasons (like this one
> I'm afraid Simon). We shouldn't attack him whenever he tries to be
> constructive.

It is not a question of benefit of the doubt.  Anybody who wants to
make a difference is welcome to participate.  The operative word,
however, is "participate".

> Ross

- Sam Ruby

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