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From Rob Weir <>
Subject Re: Source format for user guides
Date Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:21:59 GMT
OK.  My misunderstanding then.  When you started the thread you wrote:

"I assume that user guides similar to the existing ones are a desirable
subset of user documentation, and that we wish to continue producing

Therefore, I propose that we agree the SOURCE FORMAT for the USER GUIDES
will continue to be ODT. (The alternative is wiki format for the

I mistakenly assumed that when an Apache OpenOffice committer talks
about "we" on an Apache OpenOffice list, that the "we" being referred
to was the Apache OpenOffice project. Me bad.


On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:43 PM, Jean Hollis Weber <> wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-06-26 at 21:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Andy Brown <> wrote:
>> Hi Rob,
>> >
>> > I agree with Jean.  The manuals can be uploaded or linked to the wiki
>> > page.  There is no need to reinvent a system that works as well as the
>> > ODFAuthors does.  Forcing people to lean a new system that they have no
>> > interest in will only drive contributors away.
>> >
>> > Andy
>> >
>> Can you clarify, please?  Is the intent to make ODFAuthors be part of
>> the Apache OpenOffice project, e.g. run on Apache servers with
>> PMC-elected committers having write access, other contributing authors
>> submitting patches before being eventually voted in as committers, all
>> working in the Apache project lists, transparently, with all work
>> under the Apache license, with the PMC setting overall direction and
>> approving releases?
>> Is that the idea?  If so, this would be great.
>> -Rob
> Rob,
> No. None of the above is the intent. ODFAuthors is, and intends to
> remain, independent. Some variation on our existing workflow and
> procedures could certainly be accommodated. For example, OOo-related
> discussion could be carried out on a mailing list at Apache instead of
> on the existing list at OOo (or the ODFAuthors list), and "release
> candidates" of user guide chapters could be approved by the PMC.
> At present, the ODFAuthors lists and website are open and anyone can
> comment, contribute, review docs, etc. It's a convenient, easy way for
> people to participate in what is, effectively, community documentation.
> The existing OOo user guides are dual-licensed, with one of the licenses
> being CC-BY. If that license does not fit with Apache (is CC-BY-SA
> required?), I'm not sure what to do; I'm far from an expert on
> licensing. Getting agreement from all the contributors to the existing
> docs would be impossible; many of them can't be found and/or are dead.
> --Jean

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