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From Sam Ruby <>
Subject Request for permission to use the OOo Trademark (was: Teams and Leads)
Date Thu, 16 Jun 2011 12:48:12 GMT
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The relevant policy can be found here:

- Sam Ruby

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:52 AM, Ian Lynch <> wrote:
> On 16 June 2011 12:00, Sam Ruby <> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:47 AM, IngridvdM <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I am really in favor of going without anyone being named leader or
>> manager
>> > or any name that could create the impression that this person has more
>> > rights than the others. Maybe we can choose 'contact' as a neutral
>> > description in case something turns out to be needed? Or is there even a
>> > more neutral word?
>> The only 'contact' that people need for this project is
>> If this list grows too large or too busy, then we can create
>> additional 'contacts' in the form of more mailing lists.
> OK, sounds sensible to try using what already exists until there is a good
> reason not too :-)
> Let me test the system ;-)
> Alexandro Colorado and myself (both been involved with the OOo community for
> years) have been negotiating with a large training company to provide a
> community backed certification for OOo but with a vector to potentially 1500
> centres. I previously sought and was granted permission by Oracle to use the
> OOo branding on certificates. I guess we need community consensus here now,
> to carry on with that. There is quite a long history to all this and I
> declare a financial interest. I set up a UK government accredited awarding
> organisation (The Learning Machine Ltd) to enable a mechanism for funding
> FOSS and CC education development that was independent of licensing ie the
> business model is QA so no problem licensing any supporting stuff freely.
> To get started required investment so the only way to do that was to set up
> a for profit and sell shares. That together with EU grants has put well over
> £1m of investment into this. We have had some successes such as schools that
> started using our generic certification with MS products that have now
> switched to OOo. I can get the FOSS voice heard in influential government
> places. The strategy is in general to be product neutral but to use FOSS for
> all exemplars and supporting materials. This gives us a channel to get
> closed source users at least in contact with FOSS so there is a clear
> marketing strategy. With OOo certification we can say eg the WP certificate
> was achieved in the context of OOo Writer and put an OOo logo on the
> certificate. The assessment criteria are generic so we could do the same
> with LibO, Koffice etc. or indeed any FOSS software project, Inkscape, Gimp,
> Audacity etc. WE could even do professional Apache qualifications if there
> was a demand. Once we work out delivery costs (Its variable and depends on
> volume) we give a kick back to community funds in return for using the
> branding. We have the infrastructure in place using a LAMP stack for
> assessment and certification and Drupal for community support with dynamic
> links between the 2. Portal is at The acronym INGOT is
> International Grades - Open Technologies.
> We are accredited by Ofqual the UK national exam regulators and endorsed by
> the UK Sector Skills Council for Business and IT. All our qualifications are
> referenced to the European Qualifications Framework. We have 2 EU Transfer
> of innovation projects and we are monitored by all these so the community
> can have some confidence that we "know what we are doing". My background is
> that I was a UK School Inspection Team leader and assessor of the National
> Professional Qualification for Headteachers.
> So what I'm asking for is permission to use the OOo Trademark and general
> community support.
> Trying to keep this reasonably short so please feel free to ask any
> questions.
> --
> Ian
> Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ)
> +44 (0)1827 305940
> The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth,
> Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and
> Wales.

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