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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: Subversion history
Date Sun, 19 Jun 2011 02:23:29 GMT
Go look at sometime. It seems just fine if they crawl and save
the entire OOo site. Has nothing to do with licensing.

On Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM, "Luke Kowalski" <> wrote:
> Simon,
> I am not sure that everyone would be comfortable with you arranging to
have the entire site screen scraped and all the releases archived at a third
party service / location. The site contains a mixture of content. This is
not usnusual for open source project sites. For example, on of the doc is GPL, some of it is not (by Monty's own
design, btw).
> Rest assured that the intention is to transfer as many openoffice.orgfiles as possible
to Apache, and we have already taken steps to archive a
lot of content (code, discussions, and all kinds of history). Furthermore we
will not turn off the site before everyone is ready.
> -luke
> On Jun 18, 2011, at 16:04, Simon Phipps <> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Marcus Lange <>
>>> Am 06/18/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein<> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist<> wrote:
>>>>>> But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and the
>>>>>> corresponding sources) that include non-Oracle LGPL bits?
>>>>> Probably not, but in more recent years, we've been talking about how
>>>>> to distribute non-ALv2 from ASF hardware. Essentially along the lines
>>>>> of, "this is not ASF software; we are providing it here as a
>>>>> convenience." We just don't want to mislead people to think they are
>>>>> Apache releases or Apache-licensed.
>>>>> Identifying the archival releases that need to be saved is important,
>>>>> regardless. Maybe the TDF could distribute those, or maybe OSU/OSL or
>>>>> one of our mirror providers. I've got to believe that a volunteer
>>>>> provider would be willing to hold the archives.
>>>> One viable option would be to approach and ask them to host
>>>> the
>>>> legacy releases (naturally we'd need to help make it happen). In fact,
>>>> might also be smart to try to host a snapshot of the entire OO.o site
>>>> there
>>>> before there's a full transition from Oracle to Apache. I've sent an
>>>> enquiry to their info alias to get their views.
>>> Maybe you haven't seen my previous mail. The releases are already
>>> For the entire OOo site it's difficult as (as far as I've understood)
>>> not one and the same license. So, we have to look first for every part
if we
>>> are allowed to use it at all.
>> I saw you mention the GWDG mirror server and a secret hidden directory
>> containing an archive, yes - that would be a fine temporary solution to
>> ensure that early loss of the Oracle servers did not result in loss of
>> information. That sounds a fine proposal. I believe what I am proposing
>> is complementary, and additionally allows us to make that archive openly
>> available long-term on a system designed for that purpose.
>> S.

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