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From Donald Harbison <dpharbi...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Which website is which
Date Fri, 24 Jun 2011 14:23:24 GMT
+1 (!)

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.schenk@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you SO much for this clarification! I really didn't understand what
> we would be doing with
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/openofficeorg.html<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
>
> so thanks for this. And...I'm still confused about it.
>
> OK, I've applied for Apache committer. Hopefully, I'll be able to figure
> out what to do with the main page, at least filling in the now vacant areas.
>
>
> On 06/23/2011 09:30 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote:
>
>> Since people have been wondering about the various websites, here's a
>> brief explanation:
>>
>> * Apache OpenOffice.org Podling public homepage
>> http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/>
>>
>> This is the official homepage of the Podling. It is typically what would
>> become the official homepage of the Project once the project as a whole
>> graduates from the incubator. It's the rough equivalent of
>> http://www.openoffice.org/ as a homepage (although obviously the current
>> technology and content are different).
>>
>> This should have general information about the project as a whole, which
>> currently should include information about how the community is working
>> to create an Apache project, along with the obvious pointers to all the
>> other information about the project, various products, languages,
>> everything else associated.
>>
>> You must be a committer to update this page, since it's part of the
>> official Podling's website.
>>
>> * Podling status page
>> http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/openofficeorg.html<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
>>
>> This is where the Apache Incubator project tracks the incubation status
>> of this podling. I.e., it's not for information about the Apache
>> OpenOffice.org code or product; it's for information about how this
>> community is working, and for tracking IP clearance issues and the like.
>> It's essentially the metadata about how this community and this project
>> works as we're all moving towards a hopeful graduation to an official
>> Apache project.
>>
>> You must be a committer to update this page, since it's part of the
>> official Incubator website.
>>
>> * Wiki pages
>> Wiki pages are traditionally used for working areas for project
>> communities to develop new plans, or sometimes for informal or
>> supplementary documentation. A few projects use a wiki for their main
>> documentation, although we typically prefer that the main docs and the
>> main website are on the new Apache CMS system. But obviously, every
>> project is allowed to organize it's work in it's own fashion, as long as
>> the Apache infrastructure exists to support it.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Wiki+Home<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home>
>> This is - for the time being - a place for project committers and others
>> to organize a project plan for the podling. For the next several weeks,
>> I imagine it will have a lot of planning going on, figuring out how to
>> transition all the different kinds of services and sites and
>> documentation on the current oo.o websites over to Apache infrastructure.
>>
>> This site simply requires a wiki login to edit, so it's definitely a
>> place where we want all sorts of folks to help out.
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOODEV/**Infrastructure<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOODEV/Infrastructure>
>>
>> I'd imagine that this is a working space for project committers to work
>> on the specific structural issues around transitioning the code, various
>> websites, and other stuff (wikis, forums, etc.) from it's existing home
>> to a future Apache infrastructure hosted home. This site requires a CLA
>> to contribute.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully my longwinded explanation is helpful to someone! There's a LOT
>> going on - both with the oo.o code itself, with the community (each of
>> the communities, really), with the project, and with the podling as
>> respects to rebooting in the Apache Way.
>>
>> - Shane
>>
>> P.S. I'm a Member of the ASF, and have signed up as a Mentor to help the
>> podling and it's community work towards graduation. I'd love to be able
>> to work on the code as well - I spent a decade working on Lotus 1-2-3
>> and really miss being able to work on end-user software - but that
>> depends on my available time. 8-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  You already are a contributor! You sent this email!
>>>>
>>>> Please join the Community Wiki -
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**Wiki+Home<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Wiki+Home>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hmmmm...well OK, I didn't think I could actually edit anything! Well I'll
>>> send the ICLA anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>>  We have started to outline plans there. No ICLA required for that Wiki.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK...I was actually thinking of editing
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/>
>>>
>>> as opposed to the wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Well, as someone who has been involved in the project for about 10 yrs
>>>>> now...I LIKE your picture, but I wonder how it actually fleshes out
>>>>> given
>>>>> what we have to work with on the Apache site now.
>>>>>
>>>> I wonder also.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well, I'm assuming that since we are now under the Apache
>>> license/rules, the
>>> intent is for more direct community participation than we've had in the
>>> past, perhaps esp in regards to web site/wiki postings. So...I/we need to
>>> look into this. Fro example, I'm assumign we no longer have a "community
>>> council" though I'm sure we could designate a "manager" of sorts. it's
>>> all
>>> up to this group at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I am going to apply as an Apache contributor and hope I can at least
>>>>> make
>>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> few small changes to the current OOo Apache site. Until we get a whole
>>>>>
>>>> scale
>>>>
>>>>> site redirect in place vis a vis DNS servers in the great stratosphere
>>>>>
>>>> (and
>>>>
>>>>> hopefully this will NOT happen until we've got more ported over -- or
>>>>>
>>>> maybe
>>>>
>>>>> not, see below), I think we should start cobbling together what we
>>>>> can. I
>>>>> really don't know what the rules are regarding jumps form the given
>>>>>
>>>> Apache
>>>>
>>>>> site to a secondary server, etc.
>>>>>
>>>> Here is where we are thinking of building the DNS map:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>> Transition+Planning<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Transition+Planning>
>>>>
>>>> There is information from the last week that needs to be found and added
>>>> here. I've no time yet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK...I'll take a closer look and try to review messages... gak!
>>>
>>>
>>>  Are you basically suggesting that the "new" site or the new entity
>>>>> follow
>>>>> the areas that you've outlined in your picture? In other words, if OOo
>>>>>
>>>> does
>>>>
>>>>> in fact evolve into an Apache project vs what it is now -- a vanilla
>>>>> open
>>>>> source project -- what does that mean in terms of governance and
>>>>>
>>>> structure.
>>>>
>>>>> And how does this translate, if at all, to an actual site.
>>>>>
>>>> It is certainly a possible framework to discuss components. Does this
>>>> already match OOo well, or is it a new organization.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well it matches it well "in concept" but not in actual content
>>> totality. For
>>> example, the "Support" area on OO.o, which is sort of omitted from your
>>> current diagram, included not only user forums, but a lot of published
>>> information. Anyway, all this can be fleshed out later. The BIGGEST
>>> thing in
>>> terms of inclusion are the native language projects.
>>>
>>>
>>>  I would like to hear more on this. To me, these are kind of separate
>>>>> entities, yet now, in this new environment. We need to learn to retool
>>>>>
>>>> given
>>>>
>>>>> the Apache governance process to start with. And then ????
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously we need to do a lot more research on this new paradigm.
>>>>>
>>>> True.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK, much to do...it's just confusing going from what you need an
>>> Apache ID
>>> for -- like the jumping off page,
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/**projects/openofficeorg.html<http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html>
>>>
>>> and our starting site page....
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/<http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/>
>>>
>>> vs the wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jomar Silva <homembit@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I'm not sure if this is the right place to present that, and seeing
>>>>>> that I'm still learning The Apache Way, I'll try :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've published a few days ago at my blog an idea about what I believe
>>>>>> we could aim as the architecture of Apache OOo. I believe that this
>>>>>> could help us to organize the project, tasks and teams, and I did
it
>>>>>> based on several other OOo architecture diagrams I've found online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The diagram can be found here
>>>>>> (http://homembit.com/wp-**content/arch.png<http://homembit.com/wp-content/arch.png>)
>>>>>> and just for the record I
>>>>>> also wrote a blog post with my thoughts about the project
>>>>>> (
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  http://homembit.com/2011/06/**what-i-think-about-apache-**
>>>> openofficeorg-an-invitation-**to-the-collaborative-work.html<http://homembit.com/2011/06/what-i-think-about-apache-openofficeorg-an-invitation-to-the-collaborative-work.html>
>>>>
>>>>  ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The text is also available in Brazilian Portuguese and as far as
I
>>>>>> know it was the first text about the project published in Brazil.
I'm
>>>>>> also working here in Brazil with some other friends that are already
>>>>>> in this list to gather more BR developers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just my R$ 0,02 (which is by far less than the other currencies used
>>>>>> to present people's cents on this discussion :)).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jomar
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>  ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>
>>>>  MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good
>>>>> stuff,
>>>>> that
>>>>> 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and I'll just start over
>>>>>
>>>> kind
>>>>
>>>>> of attitude."
>>>>> � "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
> --
> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
> ------------
> MzK
>
> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff,
>  that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and
>  I'll just start over kind of attitude."
>                  -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose
>

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