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From "Marcus (OOo)" <>
Subject Re: Subversion history
Date Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:16:04 GMT
OK, good to know.

Am 06/19/2011 04:23 AM, schrieb Greg Stein:
> Go look at sometime. It seems just fine if they crawl and save
> the entire OOo site. Has nothing to do with licensing.
> Cheers,
> -g
> On Jun 18, 2011 9:56 PM, "Luke Kowalski"<>  wrote:
>> Simon,
>> I am not sure that everyone would be comfortable with you arranging to
> have the entire site screen scraped and all the releases archived at a third
> party service / location. The site contains a mixture of content. This is
> not usnusual for open source project sites. For example, on
> of the doc is GPL, some of it is not (by Monty's own
> design, btw).
>> Rest assured that the intention is to transfer as many openoffice.orgfiles as possible
to Apache, and we have already taken steps to archive a
> lot of content (code, discussions, and all kinds of history). Furthermore we
> will not turn off the site before everyone is ready.
>> -luke
>> On Jun 18, 2011, at 16:04, Simon Phipps<>  wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Marcus Lange<>
> wrote:
>>>> Am 06/18/2011 10:45 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:55 AM, Greg Stein<>  wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist<>  wrote:
>>>>>>> But would ASF be able to distribute such binary releases (and
>>>>>>> corresponding sources) that include non-Oracle LGPL bits?
>>>>>> Probably not, but in more recent years, we've been talking about
>>>>>> to distribute non-ALv2 from ASF hardware. Essentially along the lines
>>>>>> of, "this is not ASF software; we are providing it here as a
>>>>>> convenience." We just don't want to mislead people to think they
>>>>>> Apache releases or Apache-licensed.
>>>>>> Identifying the archival releases that need to be saved is important,
>>>>>> regardless. Maybe the TDF could distribute those, or maybe OSU/OSL
>>>>>> one of our mirror providers. I've got to believe that a volunteer
>>>>>> provider would be willing to hold the archives.
>>>>> One viable option would be to approach and ask them to host
>>>>> the
>>>>> legacy releases (naturally we'd need to help make it happen). In fact,
> it
>>>>> might also be smart to try to host a snapshot of the entire OO.o site
>>>>> there
>>>>> before there's a full transition from Oracle to Apache. I've sent an
>>>>> enquiry to their info alias to get their views.
>>>> Maybe you haven't seen my previous mail. The releases are already
> backuped.
>>>> For the entire OOo site it's difficult as (as far as I've understood)
> it's
>>>> not one and the same license. So, we have to look first for every part
> if we
>>>> are allowed to use it at all.
>>> I saw you mention the GWDG mirror server and a secret hidden directory
>>> containing an archive, yes - that would be a fine temporary solution to
>>> ensure that early loss of the Oracle servers did not result in loss of
> the
>>> information. That sounds a fine proposal. I believe what I am proposing
> here
>>> is complementary, and additionally allows us to make that archive openly
>>> available long-term on a system designed for that purpose.
>>> S.

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